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Here's a tdv8, not particularly high mileage, still under extended LR warranty, and RSE:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv...?logcode=p

Sorry Dubbs, I didn't mean it.

S/C all the way!!!

Anyway, I'm doing you a favour, why do you want to sell yours? You'll only regret it! Unless it's to buy another one! Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

get the SC. its the biggest bang for the buck

for a car this big the acceleration is awesome. everything is great on this car

bozmandb9 wrote:

Sorry Dubbs, I didn't mean it.

S/C all the way!!!

Anyway, I'm doing you a favour, why do you want to sell yours? You'll only regret it! Unless it's to buy another one!

Bought it then we had a chance to buy this house which was never in the plan but we went for it anyway. House needs renovation and extending so s/c to go until we've completed works then we'll look to a 2yo model in 2013/2014 neither of us want anything else

Also means u have both the original 20s plus spare 19s to get rid of depending on the deal I do with whoever buys mine.

If quick I think they can still extend my LR warranty too but need to look in to that on Monday as I'm not sure...

i'm probably going to upset the applecart as per norm!

imo the sc really only comes into its own in terms of straight line acceleration - when you hit the bends you have to back off - dictated by the laws of physics with a big/heavy car with a high centre of gravity

i love quick cars - a few mods from the usa and i got my grand cherokee (without supercharger etc) down to a tad over 5 seconds

BUT it drove pretty much like a normal car (within limits) and i could use the performance off main roads

now, i've tried the same roads in the V8 and i cannot come near the speeds i attained with the GC - FACT

not that it bothers me - actually i feel so 'laid back' driving the vogue i'm happy as it is in standard form

and yes i've held road/rally licences inc driving an proper original audi quattro over 100mph on an offroad stage

Nick H,

Have you driven the V8? I can understand why you say what you do, but the S/C corners and handles better than the standard V8 or TD6. I'm not suggesting that it's sportscar like, however it is much better.

Having said that, I'd say the character of the S/C is that it can be driven quicker, but as you say, where it really comes into it's own is in straight line acceleration, i.e. when overtaking, which is where is excels.

As you say, the laid back driving style suits the Range Rover, the Supercharger just gives it a little edge which in now way diminishes from this, it gives you sublime power, just makes everything a breeze, and is a pleasure to use.

Nobody would deny that the V8 or even the TD6 (once chipped), are perfectly up to the job, but sometimes it's nice to have a surfeit or power rather than enough! Also, the S/C just comes so beautifully specced, it's the overall package which is attractive, when buying the ultimate car, why not get the ultimate version of it!  Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

bozmandb9 wrote:

Nick H,

Have you driven the V8? I can understand why you say what you do, but the S/C corners and handles better than the standard V8 or TD6. I'm not suggesting that it's sportscar like, however it is much better.

Having said that, I'd say the character of the S/C is that it can be driven quicker, but as you say, where it really comes into it's own is in straight line acceleration, i.e. when overtaking, which is where is excels.

As you say, the laid back driving style suits the Range Rover, the Supercharger just gives it a little edge which in now way diminishes from this, it gives you sublime power, just makes everything a breeze, and is a pleasure to use.

Nobody would deny that the V8 or even the TD6 (once chipped), are perfectly up to the job, but sometimes it's nice to have a surfeit or power rather than enough! Also, the S/C just comes so beautifully specced, it's the overall package which is attractive, when buying the ultimate car, why not get the ultimate version of it!

i own a 4.4 V8 so the first question is slightly redundant?

why should the s/c handle better?

the limitations are the air suspension system imo - and the view of a fair number of performance tuners

but each to their own - if we all agreed life would be boring

as regards spec for the s/c against the vogue -mine might be different as it has all 'the bells and whistles' inc FBH/Rear entertainment etc etc - non of which appeal to me

as for the ultimate version of the ultimate car - sorry but you have put smelly gas into the 'ultimate car'

bit pot and kettle mate

Nick, that's a bit ridiculous, sorry I meant have you driven an S/C, but i just assumed you would know what the S/C has vastly different suspension and handling compared to the standard V8, which is why it just does handle better and corner flatter, fact, drive one and it'll be immediately obvious. Not sure exactly what they did to stiffen it up, but it certainly worked. Not quite as good as the 2010 models which lose almost all of the body lean round corners, but certainly better than the pre facelift suspension.

The puerile comment about smelly gas seems to be also irrelevant. I get off with the stupid comments about LPG, my suggestion is go tell the many top BTCC drivers about the crap performance on LPG, then go tell the British and American governments to chuck away the ministerial cars which have been converted, and the royal family...Alternatively, learn the facts about LPG, become a convert and stop chucking away 60 pence per litre unnecessarily in tax.

Sorry but to me the conversion makes mine the ultimate S/C, all that power, and the ability to enjoy it knowing I'm paying nearly half what I would be for the fuel makes it much more enjoyable for me!

As for the spec, I enjoy the bells and whistles, so do my kids, they complete the perfect package for me, if you have them and didn't want them then you probably overpaid for what you needed! It's not just the RSE though, it's the colour scheme, the quality of the leather, the piano black trim, everything!

Rant over!  Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1...index.html Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

[As for the spec, I enjoy the bells and whistles, so do my kids, they complete the perfect package for me, if you have them and didn't want them then you probably overpaid for what you needed!]
Where did you buy your children from?

bozmandb9 wrote:

Nick, that's a bit ridiculous, sorry I meant have you driven an S/C, but i just assumed you would know what the S/C has vastly different suspension and handling compared to the standard V8, which is why it just does handle better and corner flatter, fact, drive one and it'll be immediately obvious. Not sure exactly what they did to stiffen it up, but it certainly worked. Not quite as good as the 2010 models which lose almost all of the body lean round corners, but certainly better than the pre facelift suspension.

The puerile comment about smelly gas seems to be also irrelevant. I get off with the stupid comments about LPG, my suggestion is go tell the many top BTCC drivers about the crap performance on LPG, then go tell the British and American governments to chuck away the ministerial cars which have been converted, and the royal family...Alternatively, learn the facts about LPG, become a convert and stop chucking away 60 pence per litre unnecessarily in tax.

Sorry but to me the conversion makes mine the ultimate S/C, all that power, and the ability to enjoy it knowing I'm paying nearly half what I would be for the fuel makes it much more enjoyable for me!

As for the spec, I enjoy the bells and whistles, so do my kids, they complete the perfect package for me, if you have them and didn't want them then you probably overpaid for what you needed! It's not just the RSE though, it's the colour scheme, the quality of the leather, the piano black trim, everything!

Rant over!

calm down please

my comments are tongue firmly in cheek

actually i've driven supercharged in both FF and Sport - and yes great in a straight line but the laws of physics restrict you when it comes to undulating, twisty country roads

as for gas

may i direct you to a post you made on pistonheads on 28 Feb when a guy with a budget of £55K was asking for which car to buy and you replied

'... if i was you buying now with your budget it would have to be a diesel...'

anyway, enjoy your car - i'm happy for you

don't read too much into what i sometimes post - love playing devils advocate

Hunting down post in other forums... erm... that's a tad salker isn't it?!

S/C is still a 3 tonne car like the rest but, as everyone including LR engineers, press, owners contest, the S/C is better handing on the road compared to the other in the range due to its suspension setup.

I'm sure no one here is saying it's a Ferrari, but Audi off-road rally special blah blah aside... anyone who has 20% of that skill level would still tell how the S/C behaves differently to the softer setup Vogue.

Both good, pays your money, takes your choice etc., - I don't think stating the obvious that the S/C comes in to its own on the straights upsets any applecart so we're all agreed there... anyone trying to drive it fast in corners is nuts

dubbs wrote:

Hunting down post in other forums... erm... that's a tad salker isn't it?!

S/C is still a 3 tonne car like the rest but, as everyone including LR engineers, press, owners contest, the S/C is better handing on the road compared to the other in the range due to its suspension setup.

I'm sure no one here is saying it's a Ferrari, but Audi off-road rally special blah blah aside... anyone who has 20% of that skill level would still tell how the S/C behaves differently to the softer setup Vogue.

Both good, pays your money, takes your choice etc., - I don't think stating the obvious that the S/C comes in to its own on the straights upsets any applecart so we're all agreed there... anyone trying to drive it fast in corners is nuts

not stalking anyone

the landrover section on pistonheads is a fairly small 'clique'

now one 'big' 4x4 you can drive fast into corners is the Cayenne Turbo - what a stunning car

but the FFRR beats it in so many other aspects - not least offroad - imo of course

ref driving FFRR's fast into corners .... we agree

as something of an aside the Jeep SRT8 was even quicker in a straight line than the Cayenne Turbo!

I had a Cayenne before and I can confirm it does handle corners pretty well... at the expense of comfort.
The proper Range Rover has it beaten on this point and I think the RR has more class.
Mind you I have driven a 5.0 SC on a little mountain pass and I can assure you it did handle pretty well for such a heavy car, probably down to the new electronic suspension.