Hi folks,

My tailgate straps are showing rust (god knows how bad it is under the rubber) I have seen some threads previously about replacing them with the later gas arm thingees.

Is that the only option? If so, please can I get some hints and tips. Also, how do I remove the rust stains from paint work as shown in the picture below? (This is on the left hand side.

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I don’t think the damper supports anything, just slows it down opening, so you will still need straps, plus there is only a single damper used, just on the right side, when it’s fitted at the factory.

I’d just replace with new ones....maybe T Cut on the paint?

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

I’m not aware there is an upgrade for the straps? Have I missed something?

Just realised you already have the damper fitted.... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Think they come standard on 2011 MY. The wee strut is on the right side lower tailgate.

The mod strap has a fitting on the top for the strut and you drill two holes at the bottom to attach it to the bracket.

Below is the link:
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic12431.html Current:
- L560 Velar HSE R-Dynamic D180
- Peugeot 508 2011 - 2.2 HDi GT

Past:
- FFRR V 2010 - 3.6 TDV8
- Citroen C4 1.6i Petrol
- Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DID
- Peugeot 607 2.2 HDi
- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

Replace the straps, they will fail if rusting. See the various threads on here (Stan got dumped on the deck when his failed).

If you have not got a damper but are fitting one, make sure you get the correct straps. Cheers
Richard

(there are no such things as an ordinary FullFat, an ordinary cat or too many tools)
2011 TDV8 Vogue Santorini Black
Gap IIDBT

Cheers Richard, I was wondering if there was any greater benefit of adding the strut other than the booth not banging hard and coming down slowly. Not really keen on drilling holes, especially after some folk report the screws went loose after a short while. Current:
- L560 Velar HSE R-Dynamic D180
- Peugeot 508 2011 - 2.2 HDi GT

Past:
- FFRR V 2010 - 3.6 TDV8
- Citroen C4 1.6i Petrol
- Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DID
- Peugeot 607 2.2 HDi
- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

Hi Scot

Mine came with the damper fitted, not sure if I'd fit one otherwise. Cheers
Richard

(there are no such things as an ordinary FullFat, an ordinary cat or too many tools)
2011 TDV8 Vogue Santorini Black
Gap IIDBT

I have had both, but was always happy with earlier Td6 with no strut.
I wouldn’t bother retro fitting.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

Retro fitted on two FFRR's - just enjoyed the damped drop of the tailgate. No issues with screws coming loose, I tapped the holes I made so the set screws (bolts) are held nicely in place. Otherwise make smaller holes and use self tapping screws .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

Replaced both straps last month. Didn't bother with the damper. Don't really see the need for it. Just lower it by hand. One of the new ones had a nipple on it for the damper.

Re the rust, a mild solution of oxalic acid will remove surface rust like that. John
2008 Stornoway Grey 3.6 Tdv8 Vogue
2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
GAP iiD BT
2003 Discovery TD5 Auto, Nanocom Evolution - gone to a new home!
MasseyFerguson 152 - No electronics!! - Sold

Cheers folks... looks like I will skip the damper.

How much was it for the pair of new straps Weegie? Current:
- L560 Velar HSE R-Dynamic D180
- Peugeot 508 2011 - 2.2 HDi GT

Past:
- FFRR V 2010 - 3.6 TDV8
- Citroen C4 1.6i Petrol
- Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2 DID
- Peugeot 607 2.2 HDi
- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic48870...ate+straps Current: 2011 FFRR Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8
Previous: -
2004 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8 with LPG
1997 P38 4.0 SE with LPG
1997 P38 4.6 Vogue with LPG

Mine were seized when I first bought it years ago, when removed the cable was fine and the crimp, it was just the bush that spins that had rusted and from memory theres some plastic mixed in somewhere.

I applied some heat to free them off then covered them in grease and refitted with the rubber caps back over. They have been fine ever since and the lower tailgate can go for weeks without being dropped. Current
2017 Range Rover Sport SVR
2001 Porsche 911 Turbo
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2013 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8
2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8
2002 Range Rover HSE TD6
+ Many other non LR products

scotcruz wrote:

How much was it for the pair of new straps Weegie?

As per Bushy above.  John
2008 Stornoway Grey 3.6 Tdv8 Vogue
2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
GAP iiD BT
2003 Discovery TD5 Auto, Nanocom Evolution - gone to a new home!
MasseyFerguson 152 - No electronics!! - Sold

DON'T buy the cheaper cables, the covering cracks and splits and cables rust for fun in 5 mins, even though I'd dunked em in grease! I'll be replacing em AGAIN soon before they snap but with original parts! 2008 L322 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 in Java Black with parchment and Navy interior. 125000mls.

I used to be indecisive and have a split personality... but we are ok now...I think?