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mjdronfield



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£40k and not build in Solihull? WTF

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/art...-2020.html


 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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jim4244



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£40,000 to £70,000 Shocked Shocked Shocked

Shocking build quality, numerous design faults and poor LRCS...... I’m out!

Jim

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Grofus



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Ireland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Zermatt Silver

Odd styling. Neither curved or Squared off. Neutral 2007 Vogue TDV8 in Zermatt Silver with Charcoal

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mjdronfield



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I liked the chunkyness of the Defender, but I’ve got a feeling the new one isn’t gonna be chunky or even squared off. Probably won’t look as good as it does in these pics.

The window frames and door tops are brill, but can’t see them getting in to production.

Might be wrong of course....

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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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northernmonkeyjones



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Seems to have something of the D4 about the shape in a couple of those pics. Rugged and robust it will not be....Chelsea show pony it will. Big Cry There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
FFRR 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography Santorini Black.
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2010 LR D4 Commercial 2.7 TDV6

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Bill



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jim4244 wrote:


Shocking build quality, numerous design faults and poor LRCS...... I’m out!

Jim


A little bit fast Jim, you haven’t seen one built on a production line yet-

I know some people have issues about the FFRR, but mine is absolutely perfect as were the previous ones....although I agree they are getting a bit pricey! Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...

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jim4244



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Bill, go on any of the Land Rover forums and you will see a very common theme that links all their vehicles. That theme is unreliability, poor quality control and poor customer support when things go wrong.

I am happy to bet with you that within 6 months of its launch we are reading horror stories regarding build quality and people rejecting their vehicles.

Just my opinion.

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Vogue



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Daft question, but why are you on a RR/LR forum then if they are that shocking - perhaps a Lada would suffice ? 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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Philip



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Have to say the online negativity about this is just depressing.

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Philip



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Also, remember that it’s very easy to spend £40k on a twin cab pickup, a basic Wrangler is £42k; a G63 is £145k.

Did anyone really think it was going to be £25k? Look what the last ones cost.

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jim4244



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I’m on this site as the last time I checked it was a free country and, as a Land Rover owner, I am entitled to my opinion.

Sorry if my experience of all things Land Rover differs from yours.

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RR2008HSE



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Looks a lot like the D3/D4. Not sure how that will work out as there are plenty of used D3/D4s to buy out there.

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supershuttle



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Free country or not, surely it's a bit early to assume shocking build quality, numerous design faults etc, I'll be interested to see what it looks like, I'm out for a different reason as I prefer the luxury of a Range Rover, but as I said I'll be interested to see it. Geoff

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Red Merle



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It’s the most encouraging design I’ve seen from Land Rover since the D3 of 2004 ish Thumbs Up

It’s shocking to think that it won’t be built in Solihull but, very sadly, we’re going to have to get used to UK car manufacturing winding down over the next few years Sad

Okay, it’ll never win the utility market back, but it looks like we might finally have a viable Freelander 2 / D4 successor on our hands Thumbs Up

It seems surreal using the Daily Mail as a worthy news source Rolling Eyes Wink

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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Hmmmmmm, now who was it that said all them years ago "imho the new Defender will be the natural successor to the D3/4" and got laughed at both here and over on the Disco site Whistle Whistle Whistle Banging Head Sniggering Ner Ner

Te He Bow down Thumbs Up

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