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nar53



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Can anyone recommend snow foam that actually works

I've tried the Karcher stuff which leaves me totaly underwhelmed which makes me wonder if any of it is any good.

Cheers.....

Post #465885 24th Jan 2018 5:39pm
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nar53



Member Since: 04 Nov 2015
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At the risk of being ostracized I must ask why a question about Snow Foam would be moved to a vehicle specific forum. Surely snow foam isn’t used exclusively by the owners of the L322!

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rjff



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Hi nar53
A little long winded but hope this helps. I can't claim to be of much experience in snow foam, having done the act twice (yes 2 times) so far but it has been fine for me. Perhaps you could find some company/person near you who can help me as this guy did me. I was given what appeared good advice by the sales guy who I discussed foam and the kit to dispense it with before he would sell it to me. He is a nut on car detailing and does know his stuff.
Excuse if you have already had any or all of this.
A suitable foam dispensing lance is needed
The pressure washer needs to have sufficient flow and pressure to power the foam lance.
The foam needs to be used in suitable mix ratio to "cling".
Agitate after applying with a soft brush, I use a long handled one for lazy work.
Leave a little while to allow the foam to lift the muck
Pressure ash off and then dry with sqeegee and microfibre cloth.

I bought from a local company and the sales guy insisted I took in my pressure washer to allow him to check it for power before selling me anything, then did part of the car as a demo, with some dual action machine finishing to show the next steps to getting a flawless finish. The snow foam is their own brand, but the info I got is that many good products are out there, just do a little research. I'm lucky in having a cleaning equipment and chemicals/materials supplier nearby, am not connected to them other than being a customer for commercial products for work in the past and didn't even know they did car cleaning gear etc. until I visited their showroom three weeks agoI use their own brand.
Huge amounts of ideas, a search for car detailing or snow foam helps. An interesting site is
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/index.php
Hope this isn't teaching your grandmother to suck eggs.
Regards
Richard

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TDSIX



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The Karcher snow foam lance itself is rubbish.

If you want to snow foam, you'll need a proper snow foam lance attachment which you can find on ebay along with a whole range of foams.. they all work.. usually you'll get 2x 5litres for under £20. The lance is important, that silly plastic Karcher thing does not work. 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
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SoggyBottoms



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rjff wrote:
Agitate after applying with a soft brush


not sure I'd do that. it'll have crap in it and scratch the paint

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TDSIX



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My process..

Not dirty:
Pressure wash rinse the car, all loose dirt off.
Snow foam, let it fester for a couple mins.
Blast it all of.

Dirty:
Pressure wash rinse the car, all loose dirt off.
Snow foam, let it fester for a couple mins.
Blast it all of.
Quality shampoo - I don't use a bucket, just a wet sponge with some shampoo on it like you would shower gel your ass in the shower.
(another coat of snow foam here again is optional)
Rinse.

Very Dirty:
Spray with TFR (traffic film remover), let bite for couple mins.
Blast all dirt off.
Snow foam, let it fester for a couple mins.
Blast it all of.
Quality shampoo - I don't use a bucket, just a wet sponge with some shampoo on it like you would shower gel your ass in the shower.
(another coat of snow foam here again is optional)
Rinse.

I will always finish with AutoGlym Aqua Wax and towel dry then dry microfibre the wax coat off.

The first time you do the above routine and then every couple thousand miles thereafter, you will want to use Tar and Adhesive remover and a clay bar. You can also add a good polish to your routine (AutoGylm Super Resin) every few months, but be sure to keep on top of it with the Aqua Wax after every wash. 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
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Post #465937 24th Jan 2018 11:10pm
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nar53



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Thanks for the input Guys.

Living in the countryside my Fatty is pretty much always covered in mud & cow poo. I pressure wash it off a couple of times a week which gets rid of the worst of it but never actualy leaves it clean. I've got a Karcher K4 which is pretty powerfull & came with a foam gun so I thought I'd give it a go. I watched a couple of YouTube vids too & saw amazing results. Filthy cars which came out spotless after a minute or two. So I got a gallon of Karchers snow foam stuff & I must say its useless. I've seen all sorts of stuff on the web at all sorts of prices but its knowing if its any good, thats why I was hoping for a product recommendation before I buy owt else.

Cheers....

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John w



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I'm watching this post with interest.
My experience is the same as yours, if your car gets properly dirty/muddy then the foam doesn't really work. I've tried a couple of types too, so hoping for a pointer as to which make is best, and be proven wrong.

After 4 days of driving country roads my car looks like I've been rallying. Rolling Eyes
A good pressure wash usually gets the sand etc off but still leaves a film on the car that snow foam doesn't seem to shift either.

One question on this, we have quite hard water around here. Does that make any difference ? Too many toys, not enough time

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Post #466059 25th Jan 2018 11:12pm
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Most foams will strip off the wax.

A build up of wax will provide some level of barrier to help prevent dirt and droppings from biting into the paint.

My current favourite wax is Chemical Guys Butterwet wax. It’s very quick to go on, can be applied when the car is still wet and provides good protection. It also leaves a good finish. ______________________________
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I snow foam with this as is colour less and won’t mark plus ph free and I’ve valeted a lot over the years, muck drops off mine but it’s got a fantastic glaze and shine but if I do a pals I still use a soapy mit after covering it in the foam as when it’s sprayed on it’s s lot easier to give the car a quick wash with the glove Thumbs Up ‘‘tis was £25 off the bay delivered eBay Item No. 111975654784

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What I found makes the foam work best is to use hot water from the kettle, mix it in the foam lance bottle and off you go! l=Oo\________/oO=l l:OolΞΞΞΞΞΞΞloO:l

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Auto bright direct, it dwells on car as a thick white foam for over twenty minutes and you can buy spray dispenser to fit pressure washer as well and its a solid bit of kit with brass fittings for less than £50 sometimes with a litre sample foam

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nar53



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Thanks for all the suggestions but I'm thinking I'll just stick to using a bucket of soapy water & a sponge. At least I know it works.

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Not as well as the 2 bucket approach ....
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Consider buying a good quality wash and wax detergent. You can pick up a 1lt bottle of detergent on special for a reasonable price. I will often buy a couple if heavily discounted.

Also consider buying a bucket with a dirt grate at the bottom. It’s surprising how much dirt gets trapped under the grate. I use the two bucket method (one for detergent and one for rinsing the wash mit), but some think that’s overkill. ______________________________
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