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steptoe



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Rob99 wrote:


It's not coasting, it's a short steep hill. Yes, it probably isn't allowed in the driving test, but as for not in proper control, you control a vehicle down a steep incline with the steering and brakes not the accelerator.



It is coasting.
You control any vehicle, bike or car, for downhill/descents using engine braking = Use the manual function of the gearbox.

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xjsracer44



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The Automatic Gear Selector on the P38 was a switch and prevented selecting reverse when travelling forward, as this was demonstrated to me on the Land Rover Experience Shocked .

I would have thought that the L322 had the same safeguard, but not according to Deranged Rover's comments below.

Fingers crossed

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DeRanged Rover



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DeRanged Rover wrote:
I would hope to think you are ok.

We lost brakes on our Rhino Charge last year (more on that to follow) and had to drop the car into reverse to stop a couple of times from a very slow idle - ended up Censored the box and had to get a new one Sad

Would think that the more modern cars would be able to use their electrickery to prevent this happening though!

C


My bad - I should have added that we were in the DeRanged Rover which has the ZF HP22 AutoBox as fitted on the classic and early P38s. Haven't tried that with the L322 but I suspect (Hope!) that it won't let me do that ...
Is yours the gear lever or a rotary shifter?

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Rob99



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I have the rotary control on my Westie Thumbs Up

No more "coasting" for me.... Whistle Whistle 2021 D350 Fifty Edition
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RRPhil



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Because reverse gear is required to operate in ‘failsafe’ conditions e.g. even if the electrical supply to the transmission is lost so no solenoids can be activated, the valve block assembly features a manual valve on cable operated transmissions (like the 5HP24 & 6HP26/28 ) so that hydraulic pressure can be directed to the relevant clutches. This potentially gives a problem in the event of the driver inadvertently selecting reverse while travelling forwards at speed. As an example, on the 5HP24 the control system gets around this issue by using an additional solenoid (MV3) whose sole job in life is to actuate a reverse cut-off valve in the event of this happening, to intercept the hydraulic flow to the C & F clutches from the manual valve.

You would think that it would be much less of an issue on non-cable operated transmissions, like the 8HP70 used in the 4.4 TDV8 models, where the L322 changed to an electronic rotary selector knob (rather than a gear shift lever which is required for the cable operated versions) for this model, as presumably the controller can just choose to ignore the signal telling it to select reverse when travelling forwards.

Phil

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