stan wrote:

item number one,

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Y. O. L. O.
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Ok, removed and reseated 3 connectors and refitted.

Have to wait and see if the engine cut out is solved.

The pictures appear to be for a LHD vehicle as my RHD vehicle has the PCM on the left just in front of the battery. Furthermore, the PCM appears to have 2 connectors (one with very many wires) whereas the Transfer Case control module that's mounted on the RHS has 3 connectors.

Ok. Problem still there. I managed to capture of log of the engine waivering in Revs and then cutting out.

Click image to enlarge

do you get any variance in the two MAF readings ?? Regards
Mark

2012 Westminster
GONE - 2007 Java Black FF Vogue, with Ivory interior

The 2nd MAF's values will be of no consequence at idle.

who said anything about at idle

but then depending upon the response there could be a variance at idle as well. Regards
Mark

2012 Westminster
GONE - 2007 Java Black FF Vogue, with Ivory interior

The graph shows engine speed as idle or not much more. The 2nd turbo doesn't get used until around 2500 rpm so I expect that its MAF wouldn't see any airflow.

A low output crankshaft position sensor is a prime candidate for the engine spinning without firing when trying to start and also a good candidate for intermittent engine cessation. The graph showing engine speed momentarily dropping to zero yet obviously the engine hadn't stopped because it then spiked to 1400 rpm is the real clue.

I would start looking at the sensor wiring harness. The sensor is located low in the RHS (not LHS as stated earlier) of the block at the back of the engine where perhaps its wiring has chaffed and is intermittently shorting, or the sensor is loose.

Last edited by GraemeS on 19th Feb 2017 8:46pm. Edited 1 time in total

Hi All,
Just to clarify what was happening with the vehicle. I was drinking up to my house at about 20mph and the engine cut out completely. I rolled to a safe stop.

I then plugged in the IIDTool, to grab the Faults and some Live Values.

I think the failure happened at 11:02:2017 20:01:##
I had earlier changed a configuration file as I had a problem with Door Mirror Puddle Lights. I had enabled these in file and now they are reporting as failures. There is a separate thread on this subject. http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic41314.html


Amyway, after I plugged in the tool and gathered the faults, I restarted the vehicle and drove in to my driveway. On the driveway, the engine started to vary revs as idle, as if it were going to cut out. That is when I captured the Line Values and graphs I.e. As a second failure point.

Do you hav guestions of any other line Values I should look to capture today ?
Thx


Below are the Faults list.

VIN: HIDDEN
L322 - Range Rover 2012
Vehicle scanned on 11-02-2017 20:02
Using IIDTool BT V3.0 B2444

AAM-Audio Amplifier

B1A05-13 (2F) Speaker 5 circuit - General electrical failure - circuit open
( on 11-02-2017 19:44:44 at 67348 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
B1A02-13 (2F) Speaker 2 circuit - General electrical failure - circuit open
( on 11-02-2017 17:47:08 at 67348 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
B1A01-13 (2F) Speaker 1 circuit - General electrical failure - circuit open
( on 11-02-2017 17:47:08 at 67348 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear


ABS-Brake Module

U0401-68 (AB) Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module - Algorithm based failure - event information
( on 11-02-2017 20:01:14 at 67357 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
- MIL Requested

ADCM-Active Damping

U0401-68 (AF) Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module - Algorithm based failure - event information
( on 11-02-2017 20:01:15 at 67357 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
- MIL Requested

BCM-Body Control

B1D17-87 (2F) Bus circuit - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 11-02-2017 17:03:09 at 67344 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
B10AD-87 (2F) Rain sensor - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 11-02-2017 17:03:09 at 67344 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
B112C-87 (6C) Interior motion sensor - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 11-02-2017 17:08:41 at 67348 km )
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
- Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle

CCM-Cruise Control

U0415-81 (AF) Invalid data received from ABS control module - Bus signal/message failure - invalid serial data received
( on 11-02-2017 20:01:15 at 67357 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
- MIL Requested
U0417-81 (AF) Invalid data received from parking brake control module - Bus signal/message failure - invalid serial data received
( on 11-02-2017 20:02:14 at 67357 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
- MIL Requested
U0418-68 (2E) Invalid data received from the brake system control module - Algorithm based failure - event information
( on 11-02-2017 20:01:14 at 67357 km )
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear

DDM-Driver Door

B1166-15 (6C) Front right puddle lamp output - General electrical failure - circuit short to battery or open
( on 11-02-2017 17:09:16 at 67348 km )
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
- Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle

IPC-Instrument Pack

U0128-00 (2E) Lost communication with parking brake control module
( on 11-02-2017 19:44:52 at 67348 km )
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear

PBM-Parking Brake

U0401-00 (2B) Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module
( on 11-02-2017 20:01:15 at 67357 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear

PCM-Engine TDV8

P065A-00 (27) Generator system performance
( on 11-02-2017 20:01:35 at 67357 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Pending
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
P0105-16 (2A) Manifold absolute pressure/barometric circuit - General electrical failure - circuit voltage below threshold
( on 11-02-2017 20:01:17 at 67357 km )
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
P040D-00 (2F) Exhaust gas recirculation temperature sensor A - circuit high
( on 11-02-2017 17:03:14 at 67344 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
P0336-64 (2F) Crankshaft position sensor A circuit range/performance - Algorithm based failure - signal plausibility failure
( on 11-02-2017 20:01:14 at 67357 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear

PDM-Passenger Door

B1165-15 (6C) Front left puddle lamp output - General electrical failure - circuit short to battery or open
( on 11-02-2017 17:09:16 at 67348 km )
- Confirmed
- Test Failed Since Last Clear
- Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle

TCM-Transmission 6spd

U0401-02 (27) Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module - General failure information - general signal failure
( on 11-02-2017 20:01:15 at 67357 km )
- Test Failed
- Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle
- Pending
- Test Failed Since Last Clear

Perhaps the ecm/pcm reported voltage if it's available.

Thx,
I'm heading out in the cold to check what other Values are available.
I know Voltage is available, but I think it will be at the floating charge level of the Alternator i.e. about 13.5v rather than an internal level from the PCM.

Ok. voltage at PCM seems a static 14.7V

I have captured a steady idle Line Value graph and included Mass Air Flow. There is only one MAF on the ECU.