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alistairh



Member Since: 17 Sep 2016
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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black
air suspension

Firstly great forum. Wealth of knowledge here...i recently purchased my 04 plate 4.4 full fat from a friend for a great price due to the fact it was showing the air suspension active message.im prepared to throw some cash at the ff as I love them...car was sitting quite low but not on the bump stops..i purchased an I carsoft and after clearing the fault the control for the was lit up and car would quickly raise to full height and back to access height..was absolutely delighted and after playing about with it 5 or 6 times the rear end stayed on its bump stops but the front stayed normal height....now after clearing faults the compressor kicks in 3 times then the air suspension inactive message comes up freezing the controls...icarsoft says pressure static as a fault?? I tried the repair kit today for the compressor ..it never worked apart from the compressor being a bit more quite...I'm still learning about these beautiful cars so any help would be greatly appreciated...tq

Post #406850 28th Sep 2016 7:25pm
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Mac1971



Member Since: 17 Jan 2016
Location: Hartlepool
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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Giverny Green

View live data for air suspension using icarsoft and check the reservoir pressure , should juice up to about 11 bar . If not could be relief valve passing or compressor goosed . First thing I would be checking . Good luck

Post #406869 28th Sep 2016 9:05pm
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alistairh



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Will do that tomorrow.thanks for prompt reply! I checked the airline from the compressor..i take it even if its knackered it will still put out air in some circumstances? Car looks like a dragster with its rear sitting so low😂..

Post #406871 28th Sep 2016 9:10pm
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miggit



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Sounds like you need one of these.....RQH000130

But do a check first, cos being a ffrr it could be anything, but the pressure sender on the reservior failing is not an uncommon fault Thumbs Up Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Post #406886 28th Sep 2016 10:42pm
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alistairh



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Will get that checked as well..cheers

Post #406908 29th Sep 2016 5:17am
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alistairh



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Just checked the data with the icarsoft..says 0.09 bar?

Post #407017 29th Sep 2016 6:47pm
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miggit



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Shocked Well that's 10.01 bar below what it should be....... I had a worn out pump, did the rebuild thing, and while it improved things, it was very far from fixed...... the rings had worn so much in mine the cylinder had been scored by the piston, and this was knocking the performance for 6..... In the end I had to bite the bullet and buy another pump, I opted for new as there is no way of telling if a used one is scored Thumbs Up Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Post #407051 29th Sep 2016 10:34pm
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alistairh



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Going to order a new one from island 4x4 and hopefully that's the problem sorted..appreciate the input my good man..thanks 👍

Post #407071 30th Sep 2016 5:12am
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miggit



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Whistle Strangely enough that is where mine originated from Very Happy

If the compressor hadn't been made of light weight materials there would be a chance of saving the bore, but as it's ally with a chemical liner there is no chance of saving it.... which is bloody annoying as the rest of the compressor is working fine.... isn't it time someone produced just a cylinder and ring kit? that would be a greener solution.... would be cheaper too Thumbs Up Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

Post #407102 30th Sep 2016 9:38am
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alistairh



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Laughing There's a good business idea! Pity I'm terrible at engineering things.. My cars looking pretty sad just now sitting on the rear bump stops with the front end in normal height..looking forward to getting her back on the road..I've got lots to learn about the full fat but to be honest its really rewarding when I've managed to fix something..cheers

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mike whiskey



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Alveston Red

On my discovery 2 when this happened I picked up a length of air hose, a t piece and a schrader valve and assembled an alternative air inlet. Using a tyre compressor on this meant I could get air into the system despite the main compressor not working. Since I hadn't disturbed tthe rest of the system all the sensors did what they should and levelled the car off.

After that I disabled the system and drove around on the stored air for a week or so until I could replace the compressor.

I can see no reason why that shouldn't work the same for the FullFat as long as you have a decent compressor to supply the pressure required. ]

I also remember reading about someone who had slaved a tyre compressor in permanently as a cheaper fix, but I can't find the article now.

MW Car history includes: LR Series 3, RR Classic x 4, LR 101, Discovery 1 and 2 and now FFRR.
Yes I'm a masochist....

Post #407136 30th Sep 2016 12:08pm
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alistairh



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

That's genius! May have a wee bash at it this weekend until my new compressor comes...thanks buddy Very Happy

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miggit



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Shocked Whoa there Tonto.... the Range Rover system runs at 11 Bar, or put another way 159.541 511 81 PSI, that is way more that than a standard compressor runs at, and a lot more pressure that a standard Schrader is designed to handle as well..... I would wait, as frustrating as it is, compressed air can be a killer and I personally wouldn't play around with such a high pressure system. Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Post #407203 30th Sep 2016 11:19pm
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alistairh



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Cars locked up in garage..staying away from it until new compressor comes..should have new one mid week anyway.. Thumbs Up

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Lukie



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2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

recently changed a RRS air compressor for a pal of mine, they had done an updated compressor due to the first one being rubbish, if you have an updated version for the FFRR you may need to get it reprogramed by a LR specialist

Just my tuppence worth

Post #407451 2nd Oct 2016 8:32pm
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