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Welshdragon

Member Since: 20 Jan 2012
Location: here and there...but not where I should be
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2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Monte Carlo Blue

Rear dash camera fitment

After I fitted the front camera with great success ( http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic23389.html )and inspired by cliffy's post (http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic24647.html?highlight=rear+camera) I wanted to fit a rear back up camera but didn't want it just working when in reverse but when moving forward and wanted a camera that recorded, I found this little camera with the AV cable built in to the wiring loom, its the same size as the front 0801 model but with no screen on the camera and cheaper.

Needed to buy the tv loom
link for the tv loom http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AV-Video-Audio-I...35cc0d02cc

link for the camera http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161078047884?ru=...26_rdc%3D1

Camera spec

Model number - NT-168
lens angle - 140 deg
video format - AVI 1280x720P resolution
frame rate - 30 F/S
micro sd card - 2G - 32G high speed card class 4 and above

So as per my front camera I needed to find another ignition live in the front fuse box, there is NO ingnition live at the rear fuse box, its all positive live, but this was handy for the camera to have the memory stored.
So wiring up the inside the A pillar again and under the head lining, removing door seals, grab handles and the 2 dog guard clips and feed through, missing the air bags, and down the D pillar to where the sat nav area in the rear near side.

Using fuse 42 the vanity mirror to piggy off

Click image to enlarge

No ignition live but useful for the camera memory, wire cable fed through the spare wheel well and fused.

Next was to make a bracket as fitting the camera to the tail gate was an issue ( see the end

)
A piece of 2mm alli strip, shaped and bent to fit snugly

Next take the centre console off, the switch to fit.
Watching the youtube video you don't need to take the hand brake handle off or remove the selector grip off either, why make work for yourself, you only need enough room to feed wires in so didn't see the point.

And look, my FF worth £2.55 more! previous owner lost it

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Next was to find a good place for the switch, thinking where to fit, just under the dsp switch on the centre dash using a similar switch or in the coin tray infront of gear selector, or even near the high/low and HDC switches neither where ideal, as involving to take more to bits and the coin tray way would look wrong, so the switch went here.....

the simple wiring

And the finished camera

the camera is both NTCS and PALL but you need to change the setting on the head unit to NTCS for it to work correctly.
As I didn't need the camera on for all reversing this set up is great for me and you can use it in forward motion for your passengers watching the idiot ( you know the type) behind you!
Picture doesn't show up very well as it the grey day here and I only have a HTC phone camera.

What issue, well after I fitted the camera to the tail gate and shut it the camera recorded everything backwards, numbers where like looking in the mirror and sd card issues, so it went back and got another one! There was a fault with the camera first of

SD card was in the camera on both pictures ^ v

the screen was rolling up the every few seconds, card was already formatted and both head unit and camera on NTCS

Edited links for camera, av cable adaptor and wiring diagram If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

Last edited by Welshdragon on 12th Sep 2014 11:01am. Edited 2 times in total

12th Sep 2014 10:25am

nicedayforit

Member Since: 11 Jun 2011
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2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Giverny Green

Interesting write up.
You could have made life a bit easier by taking a fused supply from the rear fuse board and switching it by a relay from the ignition controlled feed in the rear corner. Would have saved running an ignition controlled feed from the front fuse board.

Do you have a link for the camera? Might have a go at this.

12th Sep 2014 10:47am

paulmoran2

Member Since: 27 Nov 2013
Location: Leeds
Posts: 1422

2013 Range Rover Vogue SDV8 Mariana Black

Nice job WD ...great cam position...I must move mine as its fixed to the rear glass and gets banged around everytime i close the boot..can't be doing it any good GONE 2010 Facelifted 3.6 TDV8 - Stornoway Grey + 22" Overfinch Olympus
HAVE 1999 Discovery 2 GS 4.0 V8 - Silver - Off Road Toy
GONE 2013 L405 4.4 SDV8 Vogue. Black with Silver roofline and 22" s
HAVE 2015 Jaguar XF.

12th Sep 2014 11:22am

stan
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nice idea on the 'clip' mount... ... - .- -.

Y. O. L. O.
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12th Sep 2014 12:39pm

Welshdragon

Member Since: 20 Jan 2012
Location: here and there...but not where I should be
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Not wanting to start a new thread on cameras, today I have fitted a rear view camera to the horsebox trailer. So far it looks good on the screen in the RR.
All I did was to tap off the positive and negative supply and using a conector above the trailer hitch for ease of disconnectting.

Pictures help though

Click image to enlarge

Not bad for under £8

If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

19th Oct 2015 6:16pm

stan
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i think ill get one of those, £8 for the camera and £5000 for the horse box

nice job Mike ... - .- -.

Y. O. L. O.
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19th Oct 2015 6:59pm

Zirconblue

Member Since: 16 Apr 2015
Location: Kent
Posts: 1277

2005 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Cairns Blue

If you want to put an ignition live in the boot there should be one in the trailer connector.

you can always 'create' an ignition live from anywhere by using a voltage sensing relay from a generic trailer electrics kit. (It detects when the engine is running from the voltage)

19th Oct 2015 7:57pm

SMUTT

Member Since: 30 Jun 2014
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 459

@WD Thanks for sharing ... once I get through my list of preventative maintenance I plan on doing this Howard
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19th Oct 2015 8:57pm

Welshdragon

Member Since: 20 Jan 2012
Location: here and there...but not where I should be
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Went out with my girl today, first time to use the trailer camera since fitted......I must say it works a treat in seeing how she's traveling in the box

And I saw a fellow ffrr forum user too...... you probably spotted me before I thought it was you mate

28th Oct 2015 7:09pm

stan
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horsey TV ... - .- -.

Y. O. L. O.
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28th Oct 2015 7:44pm

Full Fat Ray

Member Since: 23 Jan 2014
Location: Cwm Llinau
Posts: 574

2006 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey

@WD stop horsing around!! 2006 (56 Reg) 4.4 V8 Vogue In Bonatti Grey (Gorgeous!!)

28th Oct 2015 8:25pm

Welshdragon

Member Since: 20 Jan 2012
Location: here and there...but not where I should be
Posts: 1899

I'm out again horsing around in the forest! If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

28th Oct 2015 8:28pm

dand

Member Since: 03 Sep 2014
Location: Wokingham
Posts: 50

2008 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Barolo Black

I can't see that trailer being there furlong.

8th Nov 2015 4:59pm

Chasazim

Member Since: 21 Jan 2015
Location: Perth
Posts: 128

2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Epsom Green

Rear mount camera

Hello, thanks for the good write-up, I have done the same and it works well. Here is a question, can you get the radio to work while the screen is showing the idiot behind? The co-pilot wants music while she reports on what is going on behind.

7th Dec 2015 9:29am

Chasazim

Member Since: 21 Jan 2015
Location: Perth
Posts: 128

Help needed.

Well I thought all was working well but that was parked in the garage When I went to reverse out this morning the rear view disappeared and the message " for your own safety the driver can,t watch TV whilst driving" or words to that effect. The screen only shows the rear view when I am in Park, in reverse or drive nothing just the nanny message, What have I done wrong? Please advise

8th Dec 2015 4:06am

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