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td6 vogue



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More Battery Problems !?

Two weeks after having a new battery fitted, i have gone to start the car today and it is completely dead. Big Cry
When i put the cteck on it, it didnt even light up. Any ideas where should i look now????????????????
Thanks Paul........

Post #35094 7th Nov 2010 10:35am
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Have you connected the CTEK and pressed the mode button to car? The croc clips sometimes don't make a good connection, you are better to hard wire the quick release connector to the battery. If the battery is completely flat it may take a few days for it to come back up.

Remember to change the mode button to car or it won't charge properly

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Sounds like a charginf problem to me.
Alternator belt tight?
Alternator OK?

Mine did this a while back and it turned out to be a duff alternator even though the charge light was not on. New alternator and all is well.

As for the CTEK, disconnect battery from the car and use normal mode. Much quicker. The car sinks away current even when stood idle.

Post #35099 7th Nov 2010 11:52am
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Checked the Ctek and its working fine on every thing except the RR. As for the alternator ,the car has died while it was sitting in the garage , for the last two weeks. Alternator????????????????? Plus what is this HAVEC thing i see mentioned by LPR on another battery thread?

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You need to try and find the drain, the easiest way to do this is with one of these gadgets:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Battery-Fuse-Amp...5d242671a1



The Final Stage Resistor is mentioned in other posts, and is part of the HEVAC system:
http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic781.ht...e+resistor

Dan 

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td6 vogue



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Thanks dan. The bosch specialist where i bought the battery should be able to find the drain? Will see them this afternoon.

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td6 vogue wrote:
Thanks dan. The bosch specialist where i bought the battery should be able to find the drain? Will see them this afternoon.


Anyone should be able to read a multimeter. This is a man-skill and if you dont have it, shame on you. 

Post #35175 8th Nov 2010 11:50am
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td6 vogue



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Laughing Iam sorry but i dont have one! Any way reading about this Hevac thing, this does not seem to be why my battery should go dead while the car has been sitting in the garage right.
Garage has just started car at my house , will take to them this afternoon, will see if they can find the fault.

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td6 vogue wrote:
Laughing Iam sorry but i dont have one! Any way reading about this Hevac thing, this does not seem to be why my battery should go dead while the car has been sitting in the garage right.
Garage has just started car at my house , will take to them this afternoon, will see if they can find the fault.


Shocked Maybe you should go buy one, you can add it to your toolbox. They are useful to have and cost under £10 for a cheap one.

The FSR can cause your fan to stay on, even so slow you cant hear or feel it. This will obviously discharge your battery. Either way, this can be verified by checking the current draw. 

Post #35181 8th Nov 2010 12:13pm
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td6 vogue



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Looks like the battery is still losesing charge when the car sits in the garage. Takes about three days to drain it.Could it still be this FSR thing even though the heater fan works as normal and i can not hear a thing when the cars in the garage and off ????

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Have you measured the drain yet? Surely you've got to be willing to do some of the diagnosis work for yourself rather than just leaving it for everyone else to tell you whats wrong. And even when it's been suggested that the FSR is to blame you seem to be second guesing this tried and tested knowledge? 

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td6 vogue



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Dan not so easy as the garage who done the battery is going to look at it and they do know about this FSR ,but told me to try it for a few days before they replace it. Not so easy because at the minute i am in Italy with the car, so i am just getting as much info from you guys so i now if they are going the right way! Hope this explains why i ask again about this!

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I wouldnt let anyone other than a LR delatership touch it in Italy. They have an interesting idea on how car electronics should work. Mainly not, if my Fiat was anything to go by.

The gadget I sent you is easy to use and very cheap, you just plug it in to the fuse spaces and it tells you which one has a current draw on it. You can then post back with that draw and we can tell you if that is normal.

Without this info all we can do is guess - and so far we have all guessed FSR, that gadget would 100% confirm or deny this.

D 

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Ok got the RR back yesterday. Its had a new FSR fitted plus another new battery,just in case. Put the C-Tek on it last night and it will not stay green exactly like before, a bit early but i think its still draining. My C-Tek work perfectly and the slightest problem will upset it. dan what do you think????? What should i check next?

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If the green light of the C-Tek isn't staying on there is something draining the battery. You need to find out what is staying on to cause the drain

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