Is anyone running wheel spacers on their cars to allow for larger width tyres?
I have some 285 50 20 Cooper off road tyres fitted to my spare wheels and they don't fit the front due to the air bags. Ordered 30mm spacers to bolt to the hub and then bolt the wheels to.
These wheels will be for green laning and off road so the spacers and wheels won't be on the car much. Just to and from places.


Also my road wheels have had 2 new tyres fitted. Would you fit new tyres to the front or rear of the car?


Also looking at a set of winter wheels already have tyres. But are there any differences in the wheels on a L322 from 2003 - 2012? I heard the older wheels had different nuts. Is it ok to fit the older wheels and studs?

Thanks

What 20" wheels are you using??

My 275/65/18"s are 32" tall, your 285/50/20 are 31" tall... mine don't hit the airbags, in fact they can't as the airbags are several inches higher than the tyres even in access mode... if yours are touching the shroud below the airbag then the offset must be wrong...

Personally I wouldn't use 20" tyres for off roading, you have a 5 1/2" sidewall and this is the crucial bit, you will pinch the tyre against the side of the rim and take out the sidewalls, you need the tallest sidewall you can get for off roading...

Use 30mm spacers and I'm pretty sure you will smash hell out of your wheel arches on compression, especially the front if you turn at the same time... Mind you if the wheels you have are way out on offset then you maybe fine...

The early wheels, 2002-5 used smaller diameter wheel nuts, if you use them you just need the nuts, the studs on the car are all the same M14 x 1.5mm thread...

Most folk reckon you should have the new tyres at the back as that will give you under-steer which is easier to correct than over-steer, personally I like a grippy front end so put them on the front, there is no definitive answer.... Pete

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Standard LR wheels. http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic32645.html

The tyres are Cooper Zeon LTZ but I'll check when home.

I'll refit the wheels later on today if possible. Might not be an issue.

The garage fitting have made an error on how the air bag works. The lower part of the airbag is close to the tyre but they though that part lowers. It is actually the part that is fixed and the airbag raises from there up.

There is a little lug that sits down and that is what the tyre was close to. Not touching though.

IanT599 wrote:

Also my road wheels have had 2 new tyres fitted. Would you fit new tyres to the front or rear of the car?

Rear, always.  Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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As Pete says, having better rear tyres favours understeer, which is easier to control. Taking it further, a rear tyre blowout is significantly more dangerous than front. I believe tests have shown improved water shedding too.

As it happens, I had a front blow-out on the M6 the other day, and I was very glad I'd put them that way round.  Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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Oversteer is much more fun though...  Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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front tyres do 80% of the hard work with turning and braking...Id rather stop than under steer

Pretty sure stopping and turning were high on these guys' agendas...









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The other thing to bear in mind is with that width of tyre and spacers you'll probably be rubbing what little sidewalls L322s have. Most ruts are made by narrower tracked vehicles, such as Defenders... Ed

Ok I've fitted all 4 wheels and tyres now. They are standard LR wheels so offset should be correct.

The tyres cooper LTZ 285 50 20 seem to be just fine. Access mode to off road and full lock on wheels with no contact.

The only issue is OSR there is a piece of arch sticking out and it just touches in access mode. In normal height it is about 5-6mm clearance. Although after going up and down the street there doesn't seem to be the correct arch gap/height from the tyre.

I have also just fitted a set of new 285 50 20 tyres to a set of wheels, with the same offset as the RRS. I've got 9 inch with 45 offset. The tyres sit fat on the rims, (even though the rims are slightly wider than standard) with plenty of kerb dragging/bashing allowance, unlike the 255 50 20/standard rims' near vertical sidewall. Also the offset, pushes the faces out a bit too. Which fill the wheelarch space out. the overall height is about an inch higher than standard, so I expected an abnormal speedo reading, -but using an iphone app to gauge my speed, its somehow exactly correct, ie at 70mph, it reads 70mph on the app!
I like the look I see, and the fronts look almost too fat, but not Jeep Wrangler silly. I've had them on a week or so,, and driving is very same as normal. I aready had the tyres, a some budget make , can't remember what make, but they were ridiculously cheap. As they were just out of shelf life at a fitters, They suit road driving, not anything muddy like. But that's what I wanted. I have driven it with people in and had no rubbing, even a throw around a roundabout from access height standing start etc.
I went this route, as I wanted to see the look of a wider, and bigger tyre, on 20 inch rims. As I think standard 20 inch tyres look just 'too small'. Especially on the RRS with their own super-low profile. And I don't want the 22 inch route either.
Happy with my tyres so far.

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