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miggit



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FYI those bolts are only done up to 84 ft/lbs (if my memory isn't failing me, be gentle) , which is alot less that the wheel nuts at 103 ft/lbs, and mine showed no signs of stud lock. I did have to yank the bar to break them free, but int wasn't more than an 1/8 of a turn before they gave the good old crank and let go.
Sorry to all of you with acne for the ft/lbs figures, I don't do nums. And do forgive me if the torque figures are a bit out, all I know is the wheels are done up a lot tighter! Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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KurtVerbose



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84lb ft = 114nm
103lb ft = 140nm

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KurtVerbose



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mjdronfield wrote:
Could not undo the 16mm bolts that held the caliper to the hub.


They don't have thread glue on them do they, in which case a bit of heat first (well away from the brake fluid)?

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mjdronfield



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Not sure. They looked pretty corroded. Looks like they have not been undone in ages.

I don't have facility to apply heat to it, and laid on workshop floor access is not the best.

This job would be much easier with a pit or a lift, as you could stand under the car and swing on the wrench.

I had a breaker bar but that gave limited movement due to space. I couldn't get to swing on it properly.

Cheers

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KurtVerbose



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A butane/propane torch would be enough to melt thread glue.

Anyway, it's probably the wrong advice. I've never changed mine so will leave it to those in the know.

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miggit wrote:
Sad I feel for you bud, did I not mention that a 24" breaker bar was a preferred item in the toolbox, sorry! Its such an essential item that I just take it for granted everyone has one, but for some reason they are never included in any master mechanic socket set. And yet I challenge anyone to find a processional mechanic who doesn't own at least 1. I have 4! In different sizes, 4 the same size would be excessive Wink

http://www.screwfix.com/p/laser-24-1-2d-power-bar/34910

Halfrauds do 1 around the same dosh, but if you hunt about you should be able to get 1 for under £20
They are an absolute must for working on a large car, they can make light work out the most stubborn bolts including rusted wheel nuts, and brake calliper bolts.


I NEEEEED one Smile Smile Smile

Will pick one up the next time I'm in the UK. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
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miggit



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Hi chaps, just a couple of points

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Not sure. They looked pretty corroded. Looks like they have not been undone in ages.

I don't have facility to apply heat to it, and laid on workshop floor access is not the best.

This job would be much easier with a pit or a lift, as you could stand under the car and swing on the wrench.

I had a breaker bar but that gave limited movement due to space. I couldn't get to swing on it properly.


Did you turn the wheel to move the calliper away from the car? Cos if ya didn't no wonder you was having stress! With the wheel turned it is possible to get over an eighth of a turn on a breaker bar before the wing gets in the way Thumbs Up

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I NEEEEED one


You can get these on Fleabay from all over the world Cool Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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mjdronfield



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Well, brakes all done.

Dropped the car off at 10.30 and I phoned up at 17.45 and he said he'd just driven it in to start work. Phoned me at 19.30 to say all done and ready for collection.

He broke a snap on socket getting the caliper to hub bolts out and had to remove one of the disk to hub grub screws with a hammer and chisel.

It's much better now. Brakes much more smooth and progressive.

Probably won't be changed again whilst I have the car. I don't do enough miles or brake hard.

Thanks for all your help Gents.

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1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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Glad it's sorted Mark, sounds like it's never been off before.... you need to drive faster.... and brake later.... Pete

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