Am I reading this correctly, when you sell a car the tax won't go with it therefore you will have to claim any unused months back and the new owner will have to tax it.... so all secondhand cars sold will have to be retaxed by the new keeper!! Kerching How many people will bother/forget to claim the tax back, not right IMHO In addition if you dont have to display tax then if the seller doesnt claim back the tax, is the car then technically taxed.. questions, questions

this from the dvla site which should clarify things



From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need to be displayed on a vehicle windscreen. If you have a tax disc with any months left to run after this date, then it can be removed from the vehicle windscreen and destroyed. This includes customers with a Northern Ireland address, however they will still need to display their MoT disc.

There is a video available (Goodbye to the tax disc) which explains that the tax disc will no longer be issued from 1 October 2014. You can watch the video on our YouTube channel.

You can apply online to tax or SORN your vehicle using your 16 digit reference number from your vehicle tax renewal reminder (V11) or 11 digit reference number from your log book (V5C)
What this means to you

To drive or keep a vehicle on the road you will still need to get vehicle tax and DVLA will still send you a renewal reminder when your vehicle tax is due to expire. This applies to all types of vehicles including those that are exempt from payment of vehicle tax.
Buying a vehicle

From 1 October, when you buy a vehicle, the vehicle tax will no longer be transferred with the vehicle. You will need to get new vehicle tax before you can use the vehicle.

You can tax the vehicle using the New Keeper Supplement (V5C/2) part of the vehicle registration certificate (V5C) online or by using our automated phone service - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Alternatively, you may wish to visit a Post Office® branch.
Selling a vehicle

If you sell a vehicle after 1 October and you have notified DVLA, you will automatically get a refund for any full calendar months left on the vehicle tax.
Vehicle tax refunds

You will no longer need to make a separate application for a refund of vehicle tax. DVLA will automatically issue a refund when a notification is received from the person named on DVLA vehicle register that the:

vehicle has been sold or transferred
vehicle has been scrapped at an Authorised Treatment Facility
vehicle has been exported
vehicle has been removed from the road and the person on the vehicle register has made a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN)
person on the vehicle register has changed the tax class on the vehicle to an exempt duty tax class

Paying vehicle tax by Direct Debit

From 1 October 2014 (5 October if setting up at a Post Office®), Direct Debit will be offered as an additional way to pay for vehicle tax. This will be available for customers who need to tax their vehicle from 1 November 2014:

annually
6 monthly
monthly (12 months tax paid for on a monthly basis)

Provided an MOT remains valid, the payments will continue automatically until you tell DVLA to stop taking them or you cancel the Direct Debit with your bank. Valid insurance should also be in place for vehicles registered in Northern Ireland.

The Direct Debit will be cancelled and payments automatically stopped when you tell DVLA that you no longer have the vehicle, or the vehicle has been taken off the road and a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN) has been made.
When the Direct Debit scheme can’t be used

Paying by Direct Debit will not be available to:

first registration vehicles
fleet schemes
HGVs that pay the Road User Levy (all other HGVs can pay by Direct Debit)

Checking the tax status of a vehicle

You can check the tax status of any vehicle online. This can also be used for rental vehicles.


vehicle tax check , https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax ... - .- -.




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Thanks Stan, so it automatically credits the seller, still means every secondhand car sold will have to be retaxed by the new keeper, so no longer a selling tool to ' 'old out yer 'and'

seems so rosco, new car = new tax.. ... - .- -.




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I can see that causing issues, especially for lazy bast''+ds like me

technically if you buy a car it should still be taxed for your journey home ,[with insurance obviously] until the seller notifies the dvla of the sale.. ... - .- -.




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Unless the car was sorned then it wont be!

Which when you think about it all part x cars will be as old owners will of retained the tax of there car.....oh and the problems begin.... If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

Every time a car is sold they gain a months tax, since the seller gets a refund for any full months remaining, and the buyer has to get it taxed from the start of the current month.

A report in 2012 by BCA estimated that there were 6.7M used car sales in the UK in 2011, if the average road tax is somewhere around £200 PA this represents an extra income of up to £111M per year. That assumes of course that the road tax was previously always sold with the car, which it obviously wasn't.

MC

Ah well, at least we will get better roads out of the revenue

Given that the system of refunds is computerised I don't understand why any tax refund tax can't be given from the date of sale notification ie in days rather than in whole months.
Presumably the government thinks we haven't noticed how the changes are financially totally biased in it's favour.
Greedy robbing s
I seem to remember somebody mentioning "the war on motorists is to stop"

Just used the tax disk checker - It also gives you the MOT status.. - Everyone with a smartphone will be able to check the data whilst on the garage forecourt.. Using Reg No and Make... Plus the car dealer will not be able to cash your tax disc in.... Result. Current Cars
(Sold) Range Rover TD6 05 Vogue SE - 85k - Zambezi Silver - Black Leather..
Kia Ceed (4) 1.6 - 33k - Silver
Previous.
VW Golf 2008 2.0 SDI (With Add Ons) - 109k Silver
Vauxhall Zafira 2.2 Petrol SRI - with Ex Pack 32k -Turquoise (traded for the FFRR)

I am being lazy as I have not looked online, but.. Is there a premium for paying monthly or 6 monthly now? Previously..
Vogue SE TD6
Defender 90 2.4
Defender 110 TD5
Vogue 3.5 EFI

Contraband, get with the programme granddad,....yes there is a premium for only doing 6 months, I dont know the percentage difference

Mmmmm, I thought the premium was to cover the extra admin in producing 2 tax discs per year. As that is now gone and the whole procedure is electronic how can they justify a premium... Previously..
Vogue SE TD6
Defender 90 2.4
Defender 110 TD5
Vogue 3.5 EFI

^ my thoughts exactly archie... ... - .- -.




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