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MariusRR



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Norway 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

6K for a new engine is fine by me. Who do I contact for finding a good motor?

If I am to ship the car from norway to England, my best option is Immingham. Anyone know of a decent RR-mechanic in those parts of the UK?

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MariusRR



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Norway 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

I have the VIN-number for the car. How do I use it to check equipment, specs etc?

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MariusRR



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Norway 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

Talked with the guy today, who is my Jag-mechanic. He will Change the motor and go over the car, and give me a good price then. Its a 03 Vogue, with the most of the spex available I think.

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MariusRR



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Norway 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

I saw the wheeler dealer episode where they facelift the L322. I read afterwards that it wasn`t the most fortunate facelift done, but it god me curious.

Where can I buy the parts to facelift a 02-04 l322? What parts are considered good and which are not? (On BMWs there is a very visible differance between the good parts and the bad parts for facelifts).

Appreciate any treads that can pinpoint me in the correct direction. I will probably have to do the installment myself, and there aren`t any good sources for these parts in Norway, so I`ll have to order them from the UK og germany.

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johnboyairey



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I too have had a e34 touring and it had high miles but drove perfect. I maintained it myself. to 200k after a couple of early range rovers I got the l322 4.4 2002 they were great, but not a patch on the l322 my personal tip is to get one with LPG already fitted.
If you are going to change the engine. you need to get an engine first! they are quite hard to get hold of. here you will pay around £2000. it might pay you to come over here for a night, and collect one in boot of estate car. there is a thread here of a guy trying to find out if the 2002 bmw m62tu engine from a 7 series will adapt to go in an l322. which makes your search much easier. Weight wise, its an all alloy engine etc. and the car is virtually all BMW in that year period. and that's why I love it! mine has 150k on it and I've had it a year. I bought it as a non runner and repaired the failed timing chain guides....well under £1k you can facelift an old model to mid period model quite cheaply, as people are junking those parts to get the latest l322 2010 look, but those latest parts are about £4k. the middle period parts you can easily get together for under £1k. and it is much easier to do. if you are buying a different one, then find out whether it has had a gearbox in its history as that is a big plus point. and of course regular oil servicing with synthetic oil etc. I have also got the RSW allcomms kit. its around £300 and works with your windows laptop. don't buy a China supplied version, doesn't work. you can check, diagnose, reset, tinker, on almost all subjects. things that go wrong here people will tell you are endless. but things popular to repair, are the gearbox, suspension bushes, (rears can rust in situ) slight rusting to rear of rear doors open door and check wheelarch, and onto sill area, coolant leaks, leading to head gasket failure, and air suspension pumps get tired. with forums like this and rangerovers.net. you have a vast amount of knowledge to get the info you need. there are huge amounts of spare parts here from specialist breakers that post overseas. Dull and marked paintwork can buff up a treat, and really sets the cars off. some people tend to go mad with aftermarket chrome and wheels etc. remember, there are hardly any other more-capable cars out there. and the value for money is huge.(at this age of car) as long as you are prepared to open the bonnet often and check things are as they should be. I cant ever see me wanting a better car. check this link, and look who is 'driving' at the end part!! the best of luck with your decision. you wont regret it.

Post #228522 12th Dec 2013 11:41am
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MariusRR



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Norway 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

Thanks for the long reply!

Great tips about the car and engine. Unfortunatly we have some strange rules about LPG fitting in Norway, as the system must have a special type of paperwork. I`m not gonna use the car every day anyways, as I have ordered another car that will me used for most of the driving.

Regarind engine, I have found a 03 M62B44 Range Rover engine, gone 80.000 miles. Can have it for around 2000 pounds, with is okey by norwegian price-standards on stuff. Will await and see if the guy fixes the car or not himself.

The 2006 facelift is the one I want. The later one is a bit to chinese/russian-market for my taste. I like the subtle but modern look of the 06 one. Will try to find the kit I need.

I have also come across a 02 one, with the "shudder" thing in the gearbox torque converter. Engine etc is good. How expensive is this to fix?


To give you some examples of norwegian prices: a 02 4.4 costs around 20.000£. a tdv8 costs around 50.000£ and a 11-12 modell will cost you around 70-85.000£. The car with the broken engine will be 10.000£ with the engine in need of replacement. Around 17 with a new engine. The one with the broken converter needs 2.000£ worth of TLC, but is around 12.000£. Due to the L322 being really heavy, there is no point in importing one, as the toll will be horrendous.

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johnboyairey



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

oh my gosh. those prices seem eye watering! here you can buy a range rover v8 as I did, normally needing something done to it to pass mot say, for around £5000-£6000 (2002-2003) a couple of 1000 more will get you decent looking and driving one. see ebay.co.uk
As the engines are scarce. they command a premium. £2000 (its a £5000 job to fully recondition one I'm told) if your gearbox is faulty, here, gearbox repair guys prefer to recondition the whole gearbox. for about £1200 plus fitting, so maybe a £2000 job and the torque converter may be at fault on yours, but still requires gearbox replacement, as can be contaminated. My car had already had a replacement gearbox as was 'overheating' after changing, it still 'overheated' but it then turned out to be one of the trans coolant lines had become blocked. - so dealers changed gearbox when not needed! (all with previous owner) dealerships labour rates here are over £150 per hour, and can run to many hours, as jobs are priced to the book time, not personal 'clever' mechanic (vs bad mechanic.) this is a whole different ball game to what you are going to do though.
Is that right, that you can't drive an English bought range rover over to Norway, and register it? Here, parking space is premium, and older cars have to earn their colours to be kept. and with labour rates very high, general cars over say 10 years old, are under £2000 and then maintained on a small budget till a huge bill comes in and then scrapped. You guys have it bad in the car stakes. (with respect) -you must earn a lot of money to afford these cars!

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johnboyairey



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

one last tip, is that if you had bought a diesel, it comes with an FBH or fuel burning heater, to pre warm the car, and it is remote operated from indoors! and timer set-able. it cycles the coolant through a heater etc. I believe some v8 have this. you guys could do with that out there.

Post #228536 12th Dec 2013 12:33pm
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MariusRR



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Norway 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

Haha, I really cant stand the TD6 diesel. Its just to slow for my taste. Anyways, I have a garage at work and at home, and the cars has got a gasburner for an engine, so should heat up quick enough!

I checked up the owner of the car with the converter trouble. He looks highly suspecious, to say the least. So I think that one is out of the question.

It will either be the Oslo Blue vogue with the gone engine, or I`ll just try to push the prices on a good one thats for sale otherwise. The 4.4 don`t sell very well in norway. Everyone wants the diesel.

If the car was to be my only car, I would probably go for a TDV8.

Btw, when it comes to chrome and wheels. I want the original look (but pref. facelift-original). Therefor no chrome-additions and no large wheels than the standard 20" Vogue-wheels.

The video was great btw. Gave me an instant want for a RR.

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johnboyairey



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

'another' thing that the bmw 4.4 engine can suffer, is the vanos rattle. its sort of harmless rattling from the front of top timing covers. it means that the vanos seals are leaking by, and need to be replaced. (seals) they are £100 for the seals and fitting kit, but its a big but DIY job to change them. look on youtube for m62 vanos rattle, and you might find a clear sounding clakkering, as apposed to clattering. they often clakker on start up too. plenty of reasons on why, but fixable DIY. these v8 engines absolutely 'purr perfect' when going good. GOOD LUCK.
vanos procedure here. and good pics of v8 engine, with its guts hanging out. bought my seals from him. http://www.beisansystems.com/procedures/m62tu_vanos_procedure.htm

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MariusRR



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Norway 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

The Vanos thing I am familiar with from the BMW`s I`ve have. Thats not a big worry. But cheers Smile

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johnboyairey



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http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic21472.html £7500 sold

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MariusRR



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Norway 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

Lovely that colour!

The one I`m looking at is with beige interior though.

Anywho, it will be great getting my hands on one!

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MariusRR



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Norway 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue
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Ended on a 04 L322 Vogue, 4.4 M62B44. Oslo Blue with beige interior. Car is in excellent condition, but will need new summertires, as the ones I got with it is awful!

Is there any type of grill I can switch to that looks better than the original horizontal one, but won`t make the car look stupid? Really want to switch to facelift rearlights (05-09).

Any thougts?

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sounds very nice.. Thumbs Up

there are grills available for the square headlight model like yours [ebay?] but most think that they just dont look 'right' but its your FF and you can do what you like to it..
now a 2010 conversion would look very nice.. Mr. Green

rear lights are very easy to replace..

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