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Welshdragon

Member Since: 20 Jan 2012
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2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Monte Carlo Blue

Did'nt you see me......

Some people just shouldn't have been born!

http://home.bt.com/lifestyle/motoring/moto...Y.facebook If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

20th Dec 2013 12:40pm

XXXAngelXXX

Member Since: 25 Mar 2007
Location: Stuttgart
Posts: 4994

2013 Range Rover Vogue SE 5.0 SC V8 Havana

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All my spelling errorz are belong to me!

2023 FFRR L460
2021 AM new Vantage

20th Dec 2013 12:54pm

mzplcg

Member Since: 26 May 2010
Location: Warwickshire. England. The Commonwealth.
Posts: 4029

2014 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Corris Grey

Yeah, neither driver should be allowed on the roads there.

Car driver = utter moron with no spatial awareness. No clue that he should be giving way and planning his motorway join a lot more carefully. Makes the case for re-testing every XX years.

Truck driver = ignorant idiot. He would have known what was going on and he never even lifted his foot. Anyone with a brain would have backed off when that car driver hesitated. Typical modern day trucker sadly.

20th Dec 2013 1:23pm

alanm_3

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2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

I agree, the car drivers stupidity/ignorance of the situation caused the initial problem, but I suspect the HGV driver decided he wasn't going to give way, or at the least slow down a bit and assumed that the car driver would back off, or at least not pull out.
Reminds me a typical BTCC overtaking incident, just a small nudge on the O/S rear corner to cause the car to spin. Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

20th Dec 2013 1:31pm

stan
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its difficult enough trying to join busy motorways and these truck drivers just puddle along at the same speed..it should be law that you have to move to the second lane when theres a slip road coming up... ... - .- -.

Y. O. L. O.
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20th Dec 2013 1:49pm

Alistair

Member Since: 11 Feb 2011
Location: Peterborough / Bordeaux / Andorra
Posts: 7969

2013 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black

Quote:
it should be law that you have to move to the second lane when theres a slip road coming up...

If you're going to do that, you may as well just have the inside lane become the exit slip & the entry slip just becomes the inside lane the other side - you'd just construct the roads differently - they do that in some areas now.

20th Dec 2013 2:16pm

Welshdragon

Member Since: 20 Jan 2012
Location: here and there...but not where I should be
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The way I see it if the car driver just got on with it and off he would of got away with it, cant curse the trucker really, I mean would you take on a 40 odd tonner?.
Some times you cant get in to the second lane cos some muppet is hanging around next to your trailer.....its nearly happened to me when I was towing with the Landcruiser vx and challenge 90 when traveling on the M40 If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

20th Dec 2013 7:08pm

JOKER

Member Since: 11 Sep 2008
Location: Sconnie Botland
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The way that is shown is because the camera has a " Fisheye view " which the driver has not when sitting in the seat of an HGV you do not get the same view as the camera.

And to make it Law to move out to the second lane when a slip road comes up is utter pish ....

So what if an HGV or any other car cannot get out to the next lane , so it would mean slowing down to let some out that cannot read the road ...

Try sitting in an HGV at first hand before you start berating them , then you will see the view they have

20th Dec 2013 7:40pm

KurtVerbose

Member Since: 08 Aug 2010
Location: Les Arses
Posts: 5848

2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Yes, let's not have a go at HGV drivers.

....even if they do murder prostitutes.

20th Dec 2013 8:22pm

47p2

Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: Gone Beyond, Subaru
Posts: 8048

Tucking fruck drivers

20th Dec 2013 10:28pm

Welshdragon

Member Since: 20 Jan 2012
Location: here and there...but not where I should be
Posts: 1899

^ If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

20th Dec 2013 10:44pm

mzplcg

Member Since: 26 May 2010
Location: Warwickshire. England. The Commonwealth.
Posts: 4029

JOKER wrote:
Try sitting in an HGV at first hand before you start berating them , then you will see the view they have

Mick, I have done. I was a trucker for over 10 years fella and one of the main reasons I packed up was the rise of the unprofessional moron (usually agency) driver who didn't have to give a toss about anything. No job to lose as they simply end up at another firm who use agencies. All they did was drive standards and wages down whilst they ruined the reputation we used to have as being the Knights of the road.

Then we have the rise of the modern truck with automatic gearboxes, power assisted everything and not one single part to make the driver drive defensively. Now, give most of those ejits an Eaton twinsplitter and watch them try to sort out a box full of neutrals when they're rushing at everything. Honestly Mick, 95% of today's drivers wouldn't be able to drive the truck I learned on. (1979 Scammell Crusader)

21st Dec 2013 9:56am

KurtVerbose

Member Since: 08 Aug 2010
Location: Les Arses
Posts: 5848

Steering wheel attendents.

21st Dec 2013 10:05am

JOKER

Member Since: 11 Sep 2008
Location: Sconnie Botland
Posts: 15876

@Dom ,

Also did about 20 odd years on the road .....
The Scammell Crusader remember them well along with the Ford Transcontinental's , mine was the DAF2800.... then the Seddon Atki's ... as you say the Eaton Twinsplitter newbies would have fun and games with them

Understand where you are coming from with the agency guys ....

@ Kurt , anyone who drives is a Steering wheel attendant

21st Dec 2013 10:26am

Contraband

Member Since: 08 Nov 2010
Location: FIFE
Posts: 3697

^ you know your stuff then Mick.
Ya mutha trucker... Previously..
Vogue SE TD6
Defender 90 2.4
Defender 110 TD5
Vogue 3.5 EFI

21st Dec 2013 10:45am

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