The one pictured is horrific. Even non-payers of council tax would think twice about that.

If you need the protection, the factory ones are less offensive (if still not pretty).

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Ah greetings Mr Trommel, happy new year to you sir and time for a fresh start etc. Strange how as i expected all RR owners hate it but not 1 non RR owner inc the Mrs has not liked it, I think it totally changes the look of the RR. I was going to fit it after my CEC along with chrome side tubes......I know I know but Im an old yank fan so like a bit of bling. One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

Don't like the bull bar but the side tubes get a from me. quite like them. even better if they were side exhaust pipes with minimal silencing:D would make the v8 sound amazing. especially if you're a yank fan. my brother has a rover v8 in a lotus 7 style kitcar with sidepipes and the sound never fails to put a huge smile on your face. expect the mpg to go down considerably though as your right foot will suddenly be full of lead the noise may not suit the ffrr though. just me fantasizing again  '04 td6 se
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Yeah but you should have seen the kangaroo

Not pointless when you get morons reversing into the car every 5 mins  One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

In my opinion...

No, it looks terrible.

No, the front of the vehicle is designed to work a certain way in an accident without taking this bar into effect.

No, you won't be popular if a child runs out in front of you and the solid metal bar kills them at low speed.

I only had a little one in africa. And i didn't really need it in all the times i've been. .

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In Oz many have been using a modified D3 ARB bar on the L322's,as seen in my gallery. (dont know how to paste here) Unfortunately it still hasn't got ADR (Australian Design Rules) air-bag compatible accreditation yet, but it's in the pipeline. We have a ADR bar for the P38 so things do happen, even if slowly. Re the alloy bar on the ute, that’s typical of alloy in a collision, most serious off roaders use a steel bar for strength and repair options at remote stations/towns etc.
The big problem with tube/nudge bars is that they can do more damage in a solid hit, many D3 owners who used the genuine bar found out the hard way; with the tubes bending and creasing the bonnet badly. Adding significantly to repair costs.

Laurie

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I think any bullbars/guard etc. are f*gly on the L322. Mine had the full works black plastic factory ones and I hated the look every day. So I had it removed and despite the big holes in the bumper (new bumper is almost on its way), I prefer this to the bars.

One of the things I love about the FFRR is the "nose", any bar/guard etc. detracts from that look.

As for protection, over here it is probably a place where you can really do with this type of protection considering the way traffic behaves here. Still I'd rather run the risk of some scratches and dents than look at the ugly thing every day. I just have to have a bit of luck and don't drive as "pushy" as everyone else here

To be fair in the 2+ years I have had the car, the bull bar only helped maybe once, MAYBE.

So if anyone wants my bull bar, feel free to come over and collect it  MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

We still have an ongoing debate about bullbars here, but with the amount of wildlife that is killed on our roads the main objectors live in the capitals !!! So it's an ongoing debate even at Gov't levels.

From what I have seen living in Aussie, bull bars or better roo bars make sense there. Especially outside the big cities. It is very sad to see the large amounts of roos lying by the side of the road but it is a lot worse when people get hurt by hitting them (I drove past a memorial for a motorbike rider every day, very close to my place, that got killed running into a kangaroo). As far as I am concerned in Aussie they make sense, even in Africa (outside the big cities) they make sense, but they should be proper designs (like a lot of the ones I have seen in Aussie) for what they are supposed to do.

Places like Scandinavia and Canada where running into wildlife is also a big issue (although I don't think a bull bar will help anything when a moose or elk is hit), I can also see the justification for them by the way.

Western Europe, utterly useless and dangerous to others. I have also been "hit" by a towbar from some pillock that parked it into the grille of my Mini, that still doesn't justify have a big hunk of steel on the front that can do a lot of additional damage to pedestrians/cyclist/bikers/children when they are hit by the bull bar. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

But getting hit by a 2500kg car will be fine then? Unless you are above the bonnet there is going to be very little difference in injury, RR dont collapse like a normal salon car to decrease injuries, its a metal wall hitting you. One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

JohnnyDangerous wrote:

RR dont collapse like a normal salon car to decrease injuries

I think he meant if you were a pedestrian getting cleaned up by one... I think it is a dangerous piece of legislation - a slippery slope from there to being forced to design the front of the car to protect pedestrians, which would mean no more flat fronted big cars - like Range Rovers.

They looked at similar legislation over here, but it was shouted down loud and clear by the public. Pollies are too scared of going near it agin at the moment.

If you are going to get run over by a car like a FFRR, I don't think a bullbar would make sod all difference.

Fox wrote:

In my opinion...

No, you won't be popular if a child runs out in front of you and the solid metal bar kills them at low speed.