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Contraband wrote:

I missed the pictures as well..

Think Freddie Mercury but a bit camper and your there  One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

This type tend to be for decoration only, they're not intended as protection, well maybe in a subliminal sense.
All they actually do is reduce ground clearance at the front (not really an issue when off-road as the first rock to hit it will break the bolts and it'll turn into a ground anchor ) and provide an expensive mounting point for a pair of spot lights.

It doesn't really matter what we all think though, if you like it then that's what counts.  

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"Open Mike Night " sounded like a lot of fun until i found out i was going to an Autopsy

JOKER wrote:

That two strikes you've had 47p2 in one thread ...... See big bro is gonna get you.

Trying to beat your record fannybaws

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"Open Mike Night " sounded like a lot of fun until i found out i was going to an Autopsy

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The road legal ones are designed to break away if they hit anything (human or otherwise) and offer little protection. I put one on a D3 once and it suited it back in the Chrome half Mirror days, however....

HIDEOUS on a Range Rover

Sorry.

PS: The eBay ones are all illegal the road legal Italian one costs £350....

DMRR wrote:

Aren't these illegal now? Or is it chrome covered plastic?

This one is all stainless so I dont think it will be breaking anywhwere, its only illegal for a manufacturer to fit it, you can fit what you want same as a jaguar for instance on a bonnet (the queens RR has a bonnet mascot that manufacturers have not been allowed to fit since the 80's. One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

Its not the bar its the fixings that HAVE to break if its a Legal one. They are designed to snap and the bar folds back into the bonnet causing no additional injuries. Trust me I looked into this big time and without the relevant EU approval rating they are illegal.

Needs to be an "EU Pedestrian Protection Guard fully approved product"

But I dont want it to break !!! I reckon if you get hit by FFRR going 30-40mph a snapping bull bar aint going to make any difference, cars dont give that much, trust me I just hit one at over 50mph!!! One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

Bull Bars Banned – To be replaced by new safety systems

Legislation: 2005/66/EC - The use of Frontal Protection Systems on motor vehicles

On the 25th May 2007, a revolutionary item of EU legislation will come into force banning the fitting and selling of old style metal bull bars and encouraging new, energy absorbing Frontal Protection Systems which enhance the safety of vehicles.

Date: 25th May 2007

The reasons why the above date and legislation cannot not go unnoticed

The issue – casualties on our roads

While vehicle manufacturers have embraced driver and passenger safety there is still a long way to go on pedestrian safety. Figures from the UK’s Transport Research Laboratory (TRL) highlight a growing concern for vulnerable road users throughout Europe. Pedestrians are particularly vulnerable to the hard parts at the front of vehicles – the bonnet leading edge, the radiator and the engine.

European casualties 2004

Pedestrians killed 9,024
Pedestrians seriously injured 176,385
Pedal cyclists killed 3,418
Pedal cyclists seriously injured 115,224
Source: TRL Report FIF.20030937 inc Jacobs et al. (2004) & NTL Traffic Safety 2000

Aggressive bull bars exacerbate the problems of the vehicles themselves and increase the risk of serious injury and death to pedestrians and other vulnerable road users.

The Economy

According to the UK Government’s Parliamentary Advisory Council for Transport Safety (PACTS), pedestrian deaths and serious injuries in the UK, in 1998, cost the UK economy:

3 billion euros
Extrapolating this figure, the economic cost to Europe of deaths and serious injuries to vulnerable road user’s amount to:

15 - 20 billion euros a year

A growing concern and a growing market

The problems applying to all vehicles but tends to increase with vehicles of a larger size and weight such as 4x4s, SUVS and vans. The SUV/4x4 segments is a growing market. Since 2000 the Sport Utility Vehicle (SUV) segment within Europe has increased in size by approximately 15% per year, and is expected to continue growing at this rate until at least 2010. By 2010 approximately 1 million vehicles in this category will be sold each year, and there will be 10 million in the European vehicle parc. European vehicle manufacturers are investing heavily to develop new SUV products. Mid-size SUV models were launched in 2006 by Peugeot, Renault, Citroen, Fiat, Audi, and VW, while Land Rover, Jeep, Toyota, Nissan and Honda (i.e. the traditional manufacturers associated with these products) are all updating their current model ranges.

The European market for LCV’s (i.e. less than 3.5 tonnes Gross Vehicle Weight) grew considerably in the period 2000-2003 to approximately 1.7 million vehicles per annum, including 320 thousand in UK. Annual registrations have stabilised in the last 2 yearsand are expected to remain at this level for the next 5 years (source: SMMT). The existing vehicle parc of LCV’s stands at circa 23 million in Europe including over 3 million in UK (source: ACEA).

As changing online shopping habits lead to more vehicles in residential areas, the risk to pedestrians and children in particular is increasing. According to UK Road Safety, statistics highlight some 65 per cent of road traffic accidents involve a vehicle driven on company business.

Whilst much has been done over recent years to separate these groups, and improve road safety schemes such as speed cameras, speed bumps, restricted speed zones, etc. Statistics show that these schemes have done little to reduce accident figures. Research also reveals that whilst drivers of LCV’s represent approximately 5% of the driving population, they represent in the region of 20% of total accidents – a disproportional figure that draws attention to this group of vehicles.

A step in the right direction

Automotive safety is a growing market. For many years motor manufacturers have been taking steps to ensure that the occupants of vehicles are better protected in the event of an accident. Until now, however, not much attention has been paid to the safety of vulnerable road users.

That is beginning to change:

The European New Car Assessment Programme (EuroNCAP) has prescribed tests to show by how much a new vehicle reduces the risk of death or serious injury to a pedestrian.
The European Commission has set a target to reduce road traffic fatalities in the EU by 50% in 2010 compared to 2000.
European Directive 2005/66/EC, which applies to vehicle Frontal Protection Systems, will prohibit the sale of noncompliant bull bars throughout the EU from May 2007 onwards.
Within the 2010 to 2012 timeframe, all motor manufacturers that want to sell vehicles in the EU will have to incorporate systems that enhance pedestrian safety into their frontal designs.
The purpose of European Directive 2005/66/EC

To ban rigid structures on the fronts of vehicles and thus introducing objective, performance standards for Frontal Protection Systems (FPS) with the purpose of reducing the potential for vulnerable road users to be killed or seriously injured in collisions with vehicles.

Why produce such legislation?

Research into the injury mechanisms associated with pedestrian casualties has provided an understanding of how to assess a vehicle’s potential to inflict injuries and thus to establish performance parameters that promote safer vehicles. Based upon this research, legislative measures have been developed (2003/102/EC Phase 1 & Phase 2) that requires changes to the design of the fronts of passenger cars to 4X4 vehicles, falling in the middle of these phased standards, working in line with phase 2 of these same prescribed rules (2010-12 introduction) is the FPS directive 2005/66/EC

What does the European Directive 2005/66/EC legislation actually mean?

It will effectively ban all old style metal bull bars and make it illegal to fit or sell such products. Directive 2005/66/EC makes requirements that a Frontal Protection System (FPS), such as a ‘bull bar’, whether fitted to a vehicle as original equipment or marketed as a separate technical unit, must now comply with a set of technical standards for both construction and installation which require them to enhance the safety of the vehicle. From the 25th May, all FPS (including bull bars) need to pass stringent tests at an accredited testing facility and be granted type approval, effectively, this will outlaw the old and dangerous metal bull bars while endorsing energy absorbing FPS products.

If an FPS does not pass the stringent tests at an accredited testing facility - this cannot be fitted to that specific vehicle tested or indeed any other vehicle in Europe, from the 25th May 2007.

2005/66/EC is associated with initiatives of the European Parliament and of the Council to ensure the protection of pedestrians and other vulnerable road users in the event of a collision with a motor vehicle.

How many vehicles will this effect?

According to the latest VCA report, information received from the 2003 consultation exercise, suggested that there 48,000 bull bars fitted to new or existing vehicles each year. Due to a vehicle life span, this staggering figure equates to a great deal of bull bars on our roads today.

Is there a FPS which meets European Directive 2005/66/EC legislation?

According to the VCA report, only one UK manufacturer is known to have developed a non-rigid FPS that has been demonstrated to comply with the requirements of the FPS Directive.

Automotive manufacturer and supplier, Concept Mouldings (www.conceptmouldings.co.uk) specialises in creative engineering solutions for the automotive industry (OEM) based on sophisticated moulding and tooling technology.

The company has recently produced a revolutionary aftermarket product called the Endura (www.endura-fps.com) Frontal Protection System. Testing based on the 2005/66/EC directive, carried out at MIRA (of Europe’s leading vehicle design, development and certification centres), have proven to make 4x4s, SUVs and LCV’s (light commercial vehicles) up to 50 times safer. The FPS reduced the risk of head injuries from over 98 per cent in the worst case down to less than 2 per cent and also substantially reduced the potential for injuries to the upper leg, abdomen and pelvis.

In the build up to May 25th, the Endura FPS will be tested and available for small, medium and large vehicles. Popular brands such as Toyota, Renault, Nissan, Mitsubishi and Ford will have aftermarket products approved for sale under the Endura banner.

More information can be found about Frontal Protection Systems on www.frontalprotectionsystems.eu. Such information includes comparative tests against vehicles and Frontal Protection Systems, EU testing data against risk of pedestrian injury, and also detailed information on how Concept Mouldings patented technology could become common place in future vehicle designs - revolutionising real world accidents and pedestrian safety, whilst giving freedom to vehicle stylists upon the style of their particular brand of vehicle.

BB is prob safer than a winch bumper for a pedestrian. One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/dft-...l-bars.pdf