Trommel wrote:

Really cannot see the point. It has none of the desirable bits of a 2012 car, just a superficial makeover in attempt to look a bit flash.

A standard car is infinitely preferable.

Really?? How can you say that when the original L322 now looks a tad old fashioned, exactly what desirable bits are worth paying the extra 70-80K for, this car has newer LED lights and the headlight ballasts are all going to be new, no horrible headlight wipers and whoever buys it is basically not really paying anything over the price of a standard car, Its hardly a 'barryboy' contender and i get the impression that your comment smacks of snobbery, you have just labelled any owners of 'facelifted' FFRR's chavs  One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

got to agree whats the problem in someone doing what he likes to his own car we cant all afford new

Like the exterior, the inside looks tacky

robo wrote:

got to agree whats the problem in someone doing what he likes to his own car we cant all afford new

Next we will get that no one bought the Rangey because it has that certain prescence over other cars and of course no one secretly enjoys the feeling you get driving one! It was only bought because of function, in that case whats wrong with a cheap old defender with 4 pot diesel? It will go anywhere a FFRR will and far more  One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

kay323 wrote:

Like the exterior, the inside looks tacky

IMO and it is only my opinion but the interior on 90% of RR's I have seen are just horrible but there again I always do go for black, if it werent for the amount of time and money I have put into the interior in mine it would definatly have been sold due to its electrical problems and another purchased but a complete colour change to black (and very matt like an aston) piano black upgrade and 2011 door panels is not something I want to do again. My sand interior looked very 2nd hand very quickly due to ingrained dirt from work clothes even with reg cleaning, the black still looks great and a weekly wipe over keeps it supple and clean. One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

Mine is completely standard to look at. I didn't even put clear side indicators on it when I had to replace one.

To my mind, the original L322 is the purest interpretation of the RR Classic being brought up to date. Which is, to me, what it was supposed to be (looks wise anyway..).

The facelifts and things over the years have just been alterations to keep up with the Jones's.

I am purely talking exterior looks here, not technical functionality.

That said, if I was facelifting to 2012, I feel you'd have to do it all, or it ain't gonna look right.

Its a cheap way of driving round in a car that looks much more expensive, and I can't blame them for that.

It feels good to drive round in a Range Rover. It just has a "rightness" to it.

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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In another 20 years time an original unaltered 2002 L322 will be the one that the collectors want to get their hands on

47p2 wrote:

In another 20 years time an original unaltered 2002 L322 will be the one that the collectors want to get their hands on

it will take a very patient and rich man to make my range last 20 years  2003 Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

ollielloyd wrote:

I agree. Doesn't say why they are selling it.

He's probably realised that in 20 years time an original unaltered 2002 L322 will be the one that the collectors want to get their hands on, so he's getting out early

mjdronfield wrote:

Mine is completely standard to look at. I didn't even put clear side indicators on it when I had to replace one.

To my mind, the original L322 is the purest interpretation of the RR Classic being brought up to date. Which is, to me, what it was supposed to be (looks wise anyway..).

The facelifts and things over the years have just been alterations to keep up with the Jones's.

I am purely talking exterior looks here, not technical functionality.

That said, if I was facelifting to 2012, I feel you'd have to do it all, or it ain't gonna look right.

Its a cheap way of driving round in a car that looks much more expensive, and I can't blame them for that.

It feels good to drive round in a Range Rover. It just has a "rightness" to it.

If you like the look of the original thats also personal taste but jealous people just love to hit you with the 'Oh cant you afford a new one' line, its just nice to be able to take that away from them As for the L322 being a classic in 20-30 years I fear there will not be too many left then as the reliability and problems will see to that, the facelift process is completly reversable should you choose. One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

Tuts wrote:

47p2 wrote:

In another 20 years time an original unaltered 2002 L322 will be the one that the collectors want to get their hands on

it will take a very patient and rich man to make my range last 20 years

FF a few years and several men in straight jackets twitching at the mention of HDC. One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

i like it looks good everyone to there own i dont post much on here because when i put pics of my ff on i got simlar comments

I get it now mr 'council estate facelift' has a 2011 and resents the fact that for under 10K other people can have one that appears to be the same and will go and do all the same things as his 80K wonder which is still it appears having a few little problems same as the 10K council chav version and all this with virtually no depreciation !!! Maybe I would be as well  One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

alanm_3 wrote:

I have to say, I've only seen it in the passing, but it looked like a >2010, so I'm surprised to see it's only a 2002!

Says it all really  One day your life will flash before your eyes......................................make sure yours is worth watching!

I think it's a bit of a bargain even rough 02 plates go for 6-7k