HI CG,

I still have the leak, looks like the left side

IM going to bloody strip the thing apart over the weekend, i dont care if its raining, 100mph winds or snowing, that leak is getting fixed one way or another lol ...

I know people have mentioned leaks in the D pillar, I am assuming this is the two sides that the speakers have on them half way up, anyone know how to get this trim off ?

Thanks Guys

Your leak sounds so like mine that I'd bet 100% that its the bumper / armature brackets.

I'd personally do these first rather than take off the D pillar trim

My car is now bone dry after all the wind and rain so i'm now  Stolen / Gone: 2006MY Supercharged LPG Autobiography - Zambezi Silver with Sand/Jet/Jet Oxford Leather.....

I actually get some comfort in that. I am honestly going to strip it all off first thing sunday morning, ive had enough of it.

I am going to take the bumper off and anything else i see and put gutter seal anywhere I can see a link to the inside. its just madness how water can get inside.

anyway rant over

My boot has also started leaking

Like you guys, it's only the damp in the central spare wheel well section, both sides are bone dry.

I've stripped out the boot panels, dried everything and have placed kitchen roll on the floor to try and identify where the water is getting in. I tried soaking the car with a hose pipe but it remained bone dry, so I'm suspecting it only finds its way in whilst the car is moving.

I will leave the kitchen roll in and check daily for signs of dampness for a week or two, but I'm suspecting that it's leaking through the same bumper mounting holes as described in this thread.

Does anyone know whether it's possible to buy the bumper mount / aramature gaskets separately?

Cheers,

Justin 
Gone - Range Rover Supercharged 2006


Last edited by JustinP on 2nd Jan 2012 6:42pm. Edited 1 time in total

Hi Justin,

For a quite a while I suspected that it was either a hole that was not covered or a armature mounts etc. in the end it actually turned out to be the seal.

The best advise I can give you is that you need to be able to identify and see where the water is coming from. what I mean by this is that, much like you i got so annoyed that in the pouring rain on sunday morning I went out and wanted to locate where the water was coming from.

I had a bit of a breakthrough as because it was raining I diddnt have to get the hose out and i had a few suspect tell tale signs, for example the carpect panel (whole middle) section you lift up to get into the tyre well was fairly wet on the left hand side and I had no idea how it was getting wet there, I undone the two black hook things on the left and undone the massive silver screw ( i beleive this is for the cargo nets?) i took off this peice of carpet panel and i realized that the seal was .

Rain was pouring down the channels (the two sides) while the tailgate was open (much like what would happen when closed as I beleive these are the water escape channels. I noticed the seal was so bad that it was seaping in through this channel area under the seal and when it got to the bottom corners it was leaking in and pouring down just above the 2 bolts into the wheel well.

This made it look like as if either the leak was near the holes or the mounts when infact it was nothing to do with them.

The reason why I say try and find or see the leak in action is because by the time maybe the tissue gets wet the water could have came from anywhere and leaked down etc etc and your mind just started messing with you.

what i also done when the rain stopped i got the hose pipe, half pressure for me and poured the water down the side channels (I got someone to stand there for atleast 30 mins to see/replicate the leak)

I know I have went on a bit however I hope this helps.

I have noticed from my reading from other posts and my own information, there are key areas that need to be looked at to find a leak, some are easy, some are not so here it goes:

The whole boot seal
both side rear quater panels (yours are both dry so you are lucky)
make sure the bottom/top tailgate are locking well (and even maybe not unlocking themselves)
rear washer pipe/motor/squisher thing sometimes packs in creating a leak
the rear mounts (armature - linked into the boot well via 2 botls on each side) tighten the hell out of these
there is also a hole in the middle of the boot well/armature which cause water to go in when driving

These are the main things I have seen and read up on, hopefully people can add, but your best friend in this case is vasoline (magically stuff) I used this almost everywhere bit by bit to see what would be the cause of my leak, had it over the armatures, bolts, then my seal. I really diddnt want to go spending money on items i dont need.

Easy enough to clean after. all of the list mentioned above is mentioned in more detail even in this thread but let me know if you need more info as I have read this forum back to front on rear leaks LOL

Anyway once again, I hope this helps and good luck.

Thanks for the reply,

My boot carpet is bone dry which suggests the water is entering below the carpet level.

Next time it rains I will sit in the boot to try and confirm whether its really getting in through the armature bolt holes.

Cheers,

JustinP 
Gone - Range Rover Supercharged 2006

Boz, my RR has been static in pouring rain for the last 4 weeks and I have found lots of water getting in (see previous posts). therefore it must be a drain hole (sunroof or other?) not venting into the open and causing the water to back up and then fill up the rear, in front of the rear bumper. I suspect either the lower hinges or a rubber grommet or where the wires for a tow bar go. It comes in behind the rear metal wall of the boot - I have found water lying there but unable to get a towel or such into the area to blots up.

Still a mystery but we're getting there guys! when we find the solution, we'll have to get Martin to remove the topic and then sell Range rover the solution for zillions!!

JustinP wrote:

Thanks for the reply,

My boot carpet is bone dry which suggests the water is entering below the carpet level.

Next time it rains I will sit in the boot to try and confirm whether its really getting in through the armature bolt holes.

Cheers,

JustinP

Like a number of people above my car has suffered rain water ingress in the rear corner. Unfortunately this has resulted in possible water damage to one or more audio units resulting in at present no sound form the audio systems.
Having read the above I also found a small leak into the spare wheel well.
Before trying to resolve the sound problem I decided to look into finding and sorting the water leaks once and for all.
The idea of a "water shedder" to protect electrical components in a car leaking rain water is imo nonsense.
Surprisingly with a small amount of effort I have managed to resolve both of the leak sources in one go, proven by two nights of rain and the extensive use of a hose. My car is now bone dry.
I hope this might be of help to others.

I started by taping up all the glass / body joints and trim joints on the rear corner of the cat and hosed it.
Still the leaks persisted.
I then opened the tailgate and starting at the bottom and working slowly up on the passenger side trickled water with the hose into the channel alongside the door opening. Only when I got to the top corner of the opening did the leaks start dripping in the car.
I found by removing and re-applying the hose to this point I could start and stop the leaks at will.
I pulled off the corner of the door seal and it was pretty obvious the door seal was defective along a 150mm length at the corner.
It appears to have been badly fitted initially with the result that the outer grip edge of the seal was badly distorted such that it would not grip and seal to the raised metal mounting flange. The other top corner wasn't as bad, wasn't good, but didn't leak.
Also I noticed that at the top corner positions there is a panel joint behind the door seal mounting flange sealed with seam sealant.
In the case of the left top corner, the leaking one, the seam sealant had been applied a bit generously and a "lump" had set behind the door seal mounting flange making it impossible to press the seal fully home. I cut the excess seam sealant away.
Time for a new door seal from Dan@Duckworths.
Cleaned up the mounting flange and fitted the new door seal a couple of days ago. Lot of rain, wind and hose use since, no leaks.
The surprising thing is the new seal has also stopped the leak into the wheel well. This leak was coming from the seam along the bottom back edge of the wheel well and initially I thought it must have been due to bumper mounting bolt leakage as detailed in this thread.
It appears that water leaking into the rear internal D post trim panel due to a defective door seal can find it's way thro the body panels and fill up behind the wheel well rear panel and leak out thro the horizontal lower seam into the wheel well.
I don't doubt however that water can also leak into this position thro defective gaskets on the bumper / towbar mounting bolts as others have found.
As a result of the above I would advise anyone with a water leak in either position to test the door seal.
If in doubt get a new door seal and fit it.
If you do this be very careful bending the door seal at the four corners to fit it, it is not easy to get a good tight fit without distorting the seal. I practiced on the old seal before fitting the new one.
Imo the door seal is not fit for purpose insofar it is the same fitting profile as the door seal on the other doors. However the door seal on the other doors is fitted around corners in the same plane all the way round. On the tailgate opening the mounting flange for the seal is at 90 deg to the metalwork hence the difficulty in getting the seal to fit round corners without distortion.
Hopefully someone will find this of some use in resolving water leaks.
Now to sort out my sound problem.

Hi Guys,

We had torrential rain here in Cambridge today and as expected my wheel well had collected some water, thankfully not very much. I had a good look for signs of where the water is getting in before driving the car, and both sides were evenly damp.

When I got home, I had another good check round incase more trapped water was released whilst driving, thankfully it was no worse.

I've had a close look around the entire length of the rubber boot seal and it looks perfect. There are no splits or damp patches.

The water looks to be seeping under the seam that runs along the back of the boot floor. It's definitely not dripping off the bumper mounting bolts as I wrapped each of them with kitchen roll and they were all bone dry. Looking closer at the mounting holes, they are sleeved. I'm suspecting the water is leaking into the car at the far end of the sleeves (nearest the outside).

If I've not located the leak by the weekend I will remove the bumper and use some bathroom sealant around the tow bar armature and bumper bracket mountings to rule them out of the investigation.

My car used to be bone dry, so I'm suspecting I created the leak when I fitted a 2nd hand tow bar 4 months ago.

Cheers,

JustinP 
Gone - Range Rover Supercharged 2006

Justin, contact Westafalia direct (or go through PF Jones) and they will supply you with new gaskets, also, make sure you use some additional sealant and I reckon that will do the job

And, it wont be coming in through the sleeved bolts, it will be coming in through the rectangular hole in the middle. I just wish I had taken pics when i removed and refitted mine hmmmmm... Stolen / Gone: 2006MY Supercharged LPG Autobiography - Zambezi Silver with Sand/Jet/Jet Oxford Leather.....

I've removed the bumper and tow bar aperture and there's no sign or any water staining around the gaskets or in the sleeved holes

I'm going to pop out and get something to replace the gaskets as they are now in bits and then will then be able to put the car back together. I'm hoping that Halfords or B&Q will have something suitable.

It's a shame that this was not the source of the leak, but at least I've ruled it out.

Once back together I will remove the boot seal. 
Gone - Range Rover Supercharged 2006

Hi Justin,

since you are there anyway I would put some sealent of some sort on everything while you are putting it back together, gutter sealent I hear is usually best.

its just an added measure. my leak has 100% stopped, it was the seal, leaking in from the top left hand corner. top me an eternity to find it out

Was your boot seal obviously worn on the outside rubber edge, or did you need to remove it to spot the fault? 
Gone - Range Rover Supercharged 2006

No way at all. When I first started this issue someone suggesting looking at the seal, I looked at it checking the rubber right the way round that is visible from head on view, looked perfect to me, i even pressed it right the way round to see if it was hard and brittle and it was perfect. I ruled this out without a second thought as it looked fine.

My attention was only drawn back to this when i visibly seen the leak myself and thought it cant be coming from the bottom, but the top.

I started to put vasoline round the part of the seal that meets the body, e.g. down the two sides with the top tailgate open, I also sealed the bottom with the same stuff, leak still there. then i thought it has to be coming from the top, I generously put vasoline round the two top corners, right along the top too and since then it was literally bone dry for a whole 7 days, bought a new seal and not had a problem since.

I had a look and the metal part inside the seal was screwed, you could tell, I am sure within this same thread someone else has mentioned how the had the exact same problem with water coming in from the top corner of the seal and the metal inside the seal was rusted and bending and hence it wasnt secured to the body of the car and obviously not creating a seal.

I hope this helps, if you need pics let me know, ill be happy to dig some out and take some new ones.