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Brightondefender



Member Since: 29 Jan 2013
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Small rear seat not folding

Hello Very Happy

I have electric rear seats in my L405 and the smaller one of the 2 won’t move via the motor. When I flick the button you can hear a sort of electrical engaging but it doesn’t shift the seat at all.

Has anyone experienced this? Also does anyone know where the motor is for the rear seats?

Many thanks and happy Christmas 🎄

Post #538467 25th Dec 2019 12:33pm
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palli



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United Kingdom 2019 Range Rover SVAutobiography 5.0 SC V8 Firenze Red

Had exactly this after picking up my 2019 AB.
MD had a software update for a known JLR issue with this and now all is sorted.
Why it was not fixed at factory or MD puzzles me. 2008 Vogue Black - gone
2012 Vogue SE White - gone
2016 Autobiography Blue - gone
2019 Autobiography Grey - gone
2020 SVAutobiography Red

Post #538603 27th Dec 2019 4:04pm
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Billy.sg



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United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Luxor

Just had a similar issue in my 2016 MY AB. Except stuck in folded / flat position. Cannot hear any motor whirring!

Any suggestions?!

W.R.T. fixing are Factory.

Think about how phones are made... same model, same spec, same assembly line. Even then you have post sales issues (e.g. iPhone 5s in one batch did not connect with all Wi-fi networks)

Similar but on a more complicated scale the same applies to cars with multiple small computers/ phones / ECUs in them.

The in the factory , the spec is put together for the base model. Then features are added based on specific build request finally listed on the LR Build sheet. The hardware and associated ECU for each feature is built on separate assembly lines from other manufacturers sometimes. There isn’t much control on the software in the ECU at LR beyond a minimum stable software version. There may be multiple improvements on the minimum version within a week - creating a new sub version which may have a fix. If a flaw is widespread / critical for safety. for example airbag not deploying or delaying deployment, or this seat stuck situation, software patch updates are issue for MD to update or sold cars. Airbag / handbrake type issues sometimes require recall as these are a safety issue, where the patch is updated and tested with various cars which have different software sub versions to identify the minimum sub version allowing recreation the flaw.

Hope this makes sense.
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Post #541961 26th Jan 2020 1:30pm
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karba78



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France 2013 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 V8 Baltic Blue

Hello
have the same issue and symptoms (hear a click zhen trying to fold the small one)
has anyone solved this without a dealer intervention
thks 2013 L405 V8 5.0 Aspirated Autobiography
gone 2005 LR3 V8 4.4 HSE
1999 TD5 Defender

Post #552764 5th May 2020 11:06am
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karba78



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France 2013 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 V8 Baltic Blue
contacts ... preventing seat folding

so the car came back from the dealership
the explanation of right rear seat non folding is that the contact plugs are oxydated, probably spend some time in water...
does anyone have a clue where those electric plugs migh be so i check if i can fix them
thks 2013 L405 V8 5.0 Aspirated Autobiography
gone 2005 LR3 V8 4.4 HSE
1999 TD5 Defender

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Billy.sg



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United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Luxor

Hi Karba,

You are referring to more than one set of contact plugs here, and may need to get more specific information from the dealer, let me explain:

1. Motor has its plugs (Under seat)
2. control module has its plugs (Under seat)
3. Switch back in boot has its plugs (Right hand side panel)
4. Switch pack on seat has its plugs (under / seat)

For anything under the seat you Will have to remove the seat. Barring the seat switch pack which can I believe unbolted from the side screws / bolts not easily reachable in either case

The switch pack in the boot pulls out quite easily to reveal the plug on the back. (But if that one is Oxydated you have a bigger problem on your hands as the fuse box sits in the same area a further in.

Best of luck. Suzuki Gypsy MG410W 94 -Tata Grand Telcosport / Sierra 92 -Nissan X-Trail Aventura 07 2.2D -Honda CRV ES 01 S4 1.9L -Honda CRV ES-L 07 VTEC 2L -L322 Vogue 04 V6 3L -L322 Autobio 11 V8 4.4L - L405 Autobio 16 V6 3L -L320 Autobio 71 V8 4.4L -XC90 InscriPro 21 V6 2L EV PLUG-IN HYBRID -L405 Autobio 19 V6 3L -Velar P350 HSE Dynamic 21 2.2D -L405 Vogue SE 63 V8 4.4L

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karba78



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France 2013 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 V8 Baltic Blue

very helpfull thanks Billy
i would assume they are the one in the boot
will start there, i dont believe they took off the seat
if you guys have any picture, that s appreciated, i will pull out the right pqnel that reveals the switch box qnd look for it
thks again 2013 L405 V8 5.0 Aspirated Autobiography
gone 2005 LR3 V8 4.4 HSE
1999 TD5 Defender

Post #563427 3rd Aug 2020 7:32am
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karba78



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here it comes, picture from the garage
if someone can confirm where this is is and the potential fix
many thanks


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 2013 L405 V8 5.0 Aspirated Autobiography
gone 2005 LR3 V8 4.4 HSE
1999 TD5 Defender

Post #563522 4th Aug 2020 8:07am
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charlie croker mk2



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That looks like water contamination and then corrosion of the connectors . Get this type of spray and a cut down clean paint brush and clean and it should be OK . But a main dealer may want to cut the connector out and get a new loom at big cost .

Next question is to ask your rear passengers who spilled the drink and did not say anything ?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Servisol-701-100U...amp;sr=8-6

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karba78



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France 2013 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 V8 Baltic Blue

Thks Charlie Smile i wonder more what the hell he was drinking Very Happy
will buy the recommended spray
i assume this is located neer the door footwell, just in front of the seat,
an i will have to remove the protectors and lift the carpet
can anyone confirm ?
thks 2013 L405 V8 5.0 Aspirated Autobiography
gone 2005 LR3 V8 4.4 HSE
1999 TD5 Defender

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karba78



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ok got the culprits....

 2013 L405 V8 5.0 Aspirated Autobiography
gone 2005 LR3 V8 4.4 HSE
1999 TD5 Defender

Post #563660 5th Aug 2020 10:07am
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charlie croker mk2



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That's a huge amount of corrosion , use old tooth brush as well .if some components have dissolved you may have to get a new module .Best of luck

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karba78



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yes
and price of new parts not cheap... 300GBP min

https://www.google.fr/search?newwindow=1&a...amp;uact=5

will try to clean ... first nothing to loose 2013 L405 V8 5.0 Aspirated Autobiography
gone 2005 LR3 V8 4.4 HSE
1999 TD5 Defender

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ebay has these for around £40 upwards...although the part number ends in 'AA' and not 'AB'.. ... - .- -.




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charlie croker mk2



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Whether you can fix the original module or have to get a new one , it's absolutely vital that you find the source of the water / drink before you go much further .At least if you have to get a new module from the UK you won't have to pay our VAT ( sales tax )

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