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bembo449



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Urgent adviee needed , please help !

Right guys , doin my turbo on td6 right now but theres hardly any play BUT the crank case breather is rock solid in oil , how can i test to see if its at faumt before i go any further with the strip down

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JayGee



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You mean the oil return pipe from turbo to sump? This should definitely be clear otherwise the oil can't circulate through the shaft bearings. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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bembo449



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No pal i mean the crank case breather on top of the left hand side of the engine , will be checking the return next

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I imagine you could just take the filter bit out, that’s solid, and see how it runs.

When you upgrade to the later vortex one, which will never block and never need changing, you can just get the filter bit or change the whole bit, so the original one is just like a small foam type filter.






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bembo449



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Think im guna have too pal

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mjdronfield



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Pretty sure that will sort it mate. Get a later vortex one ordered for a BMW…. Not Land Rover or you will get the crappy design you already have.

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2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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mjdronfield



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Like this, most folk change the whole unit, but you can just get the vortex bit and cut some plastic tabs and fit to yours.

Sounds like yours has had it, so I’d just swap the entire unit if it was me…..

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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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bembo449



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Ordered a new one but cant get it till nay unfortunately

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bembo449



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Ive run the engine till warm and there is only blueish smoke when i press the throttle and rev to 2/3k at idle theres none at all , im convinced the turbo is ok

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Probably chucking the crud out. Filter tends to always gets missed when servicing at a garage, and causes all sorts of issues. That’s why BMW changed the design, but that was after they had sold Land Rover.

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2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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bembo449



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Will give it a good run tomorrow and fingers crossed, the problem will be srted

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I fitted a K&N air filter element too, which I get the pros and cons of these things, but that meant the engine cover didn’t have to come off at all when servicing…. Unless you wanted to check the air filter…. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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Air filter is ok 👍

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A blocked crank breather can force oil out of the turbo seals (and cause smoke) as it pressurises the return to the sump. Common issue on old diesel cars where sooty blowby gases mixed with oil and water vapour create a nice black tar. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Ok thats helpful info , as above , instict / experience tells me the turbo is ok and hopefully with the breather renewed the residue in the exhaust will burn off , if not i have a new charger i can fit anyway

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