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SFM



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Addition to low beam headlights

Any ideas?
Not really happy with the quality of lighting when on the low beam mode.
Can you fit a light bar?
Is it legal?

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Can you do that with xenon’s ?

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yes you can....theres a few threads re this..

cam tec craig has fitted a lightbar behind his front grille on one of his FF's, do a sesrch. ... - .- -.




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I think the light bar would only be legal off-road.

There’s loads of LED bulb upgrades on eBay and AE as mentioned in the other threads. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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DrRob wrote:
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- as if there is not enough glare from factory fitted LED headlights..............

Unless the L405 headlights are inferior to the L322 then there is no need to modify what you have & of course all those that have modified their headlamps have informed their insurance companies......

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my personnel view and that of others is that the l405 xenon headlights 'are' inferior to the L322 lights... ... - .- -.




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I fit LED bulbs last week. There is no additional glare as they are projector headlights and are properly aimed. They we under $30 Canadian from AliExpress. Much better than Xenon, instant on, and bright. I have been running and retrofitting Xenon headlights since 2000.

Those that retrofit LED bulbs in reflector style headlights or improperly aligned projector headlights are the cause of the problem.

I would not add an LED light bar behind the grill as I have on other vehicles. Dan. 🇨🇦 2013 L405 5.0 SCV8

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stan wrote:
my personnel view and that of others is that the l405 xenon headlights 'are' inferior to the L322 lights...


In that case you can alway drive in a manner/speed withing the limits of the factory fitted lights or get your eyes tested..........

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Bora20 wrote:

There is no additional glare as they are projector headlights and are properly aimed.


Virtually all LED light sources produce glare to a greater or lesser degree.

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Hi,

Glare from headlamps essentially is light escaping from the designed pattern. Unfortunately a lot of people are putting high power LEDs into headlamp bowls that were never designed for them.

The headlamp and, protective lens and parabolic mirror are very carefully designed to match a specific bulb type and radiation pattern, if you then fit another type of bulb only a fool would assume it will work as designed, pot luck perhaps, but poor all the same.

Sure it's going to be brighter if it generates high lumens but the light pattern is all over the place, it may conform to the set cutoff rules but there will probably be considerable stray light escaping, thus dazzle or glare.

For those that wear prescription glasses, prisms, contact lenses or IOL implants the impact can be quite blinding driving at night.

If you can't see at night with D3S bulbs from a premium brand on the Range Rover, you probably need your own eyes testing.

So please stop being obsessed with brightness and spare a thought for those of us who are over the age of 3.

Rant over, back in the box Fuji White / Jet 2012 4.4 TDV8 Westminster

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I had an L322 and now an L405 yes the headlights aren't as bright but I think they are more than adequate and I'm over 70 and wear glasses so my rallying days are over (its the wrong sort of car anyway). I used to have Cibie and Marchall spotlights for hammering through forestry sections at breakneck speeds. Obviously crashed and overturned a few vehicles but more interested in wafting along in serene comfort now. Geoff

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Looks interesting

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SamThomas wrote:
DrRob wrote:
Fit Bevinsee LED replacement bulbs 👍🥳


- as if there is not enough glare from factory fitted LED headlights..............

Unless the L405 headlights are inferior to the L322 then there is no need to modify what you have & of course all those that have modified their headlamps have informed their insurance companies......


The pre facelift L405 headlights are dreadful - the L322 are far superior. The pixel / matrix L405 lights are though in a different league 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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AndyRoo wrote:
Hi,

Glare from headlamps essentially is light escaping from the designed pattern. Unfortunately a lot of people are putting high power LEDs into headlamp bowls that were never designed for them.

The headlamp and, protective lens and parabolic mirror are very carefully designed to match a specific bulb type and radiation pattern, if you then fit another type of bulb only a fool would assume it will work as designed, pot luck perhaps, but poor all the same.

Sure it's going to be brighter if it generates high lumens but the light pattern is all over the place, it may conform to the set cutoff rules but there will probably be considerable stray light escaping, thus dazzle or glare.

For those that wear prescription glasses, prisms, contact lenses or IOL implants the impact can be quite blinding driving at night.

If you can't see at night with D3S bulbs from a premium brand on the Range Rover, you probably need your own eyes testing.

So please stop being obsessed with brightness and spare a thought for those of us who are over the age of 3.

Rant over, back in the box


Very well said - I wonder how many of the proponants of fitting LED's to lights NOT designed for them have had their own eyes tested recently, especially up to vocational driving standards ?


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