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CSK



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Purchase L405 now or wait for new L460?

What would you do?
I’m being offered a 6 month old SV Autobiography Dynamic with 2,500 miles on the clock, as new condition, big discount.
I’m very tempted but... new shape L460 will be released later this year.
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/112704...hots-video
Should I be patient and wait for the new one or should I go ahead with buying the SVA?
What would you do?
Problem is there’s very little info on the next gen Range Rover.
Will it have the Supercharged V8 or the twin turbo BMW V8?
Will the entire range be hybrid?
I just love the 5L V8 they have now and don’t like turbocharged nor hybrid.
On the other hand I’m thinking the SVA will drop in value like a stone once the new model is released.

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If only we can predict the future. It’s hard to say whether it will drop or not. Mine is a lot older, bought as an intermediate runabout but has turned me into a supercharger convert.

Would they still make a “crazy” version with the new one? Who knows, and if they do would they do it at launch?

I think you are safe getting one now. Get the last of the awesome V8 superchargers and enjoy it.

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If the discount equals the next 12 months depreciation, then buy it because you can sell it without losing too much if later this year you decide you want the new model.

Or just buy it and accept the cost of swapping for a new one at some point in the future.

Or don’t buy it and wait for the new one Smile MY23 D350 HSE
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The 460 will come fully BMW engined... 100% all the engines will be BMW units... Thumbs Up

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Get the current SV then 🤣🥰

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Cam-Tech-Craig wrote:
The 460 will come fully BMW engined... 100% all the engines will be BMW units... Thumbs Up


I only see that as a good thing, I know there are plenty of fans of the Supercharged V8, but it's getting old now.

I spent 2 years / 50,000 miles with the current BMW 4.4 V8 engine and it's a great engine. It was fitted to a G11 7 series and on long motorway runs (at a decent) speed it achieved around 40mpg, which was partly because the 7 is relatively light (carbon core etc) but also because the engine is incredibly efficient. Sounded really good too, I had the M Sport exhaust on mine and it was pre DPF. MY23 Panamera E-Hybrid
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I have the 4.4 V8 in a M5 Competition running 625BHP. It's a peach of an engine. MY23 D350 HSE
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No argument from me that BMW make fantastic engines, they really do. For BMW's...At the moment I've only got the little S55 BMW engine in my wife's M car, and it is brilliant in her little car. Mercedes AMG went through a similar thing, the new smaller V8 twin turbo's are fantastic engines.

But a supercharged v8 in the SV is special...

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I’m in similar position, and going for the 405 sva.

New models have new problems so let them find them before I invest etc.

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Cam-Tech-Craig wrote:
The 460 will come fully BMW engined... 100% all the engines will be BMW units... Thumbs Up

Are you sure this will include the V8 petrol?
Why have they recently taken over the manufacturing of the 5L Supercharged V8 from Ford?
And why is the new Defender V8 using the Supercharged engine instead of a BMW sourced one?
I’m still very much undecided, I would love to have more info on the next gen FFRR but there’s very little info being leaked.
Do you know if the entire model range will be hybrid, there’s talk that even the petrol V8 will be mild hybrid.

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BMW engines would also mean a very short lifespan for the Ingenium engine platform. Particularly by JLR standards.

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Hmmmm..... I must admit that I don’t think the Ingenium engine has been the the star JLR thought it would be 🤔

Jim

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Reviews have certainly not been kind to the Ingenium.

On the other hand, the only great engines in the history of Land Rover are the Jaguar V8s that Ford paid for.

As to Jaguar, I don’t know if they had state-of-the-art engines before I was born. It is hard to go wrong with an I6, but Sir Lyons probably found a way to skimp on something.

Like for Volvo, electrification will arrive, and not being able to design a great engine will no longer matter.

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Why on Earth would Land Rover want to ditch its hard won independence in engine manufacturing, when they have a modern design, of their own, very early on in its production life. It would not only be costly to close that and buy in, but BMW would have control over LR’s production numbers, in the same way that Ford did at the end of the Defender’s production run; demand was still there, witness the last minute production extensions, but Ford wouldn’t supply enough engines (and that’s what I was told, at the factory, in 2017).

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I think that sums it up.

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