Received a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) through the post today for an alleged contravention by our RR in London on Halloween. Neither our car or those who drive it have been to London in it. Whilst the offending vehicle, according to the issuer’s images and video footage, might look similar to ours there are some distinctive markings that prove it wasn’t our car which was parked outside our house at the material time. Since reported the facts to the PCN issuer, to the police and to the DVLA.

What a royal PITA this could become!

A colleague of mine got a penalty ticket for a hire car that he was using but after a lot of messing around, it was established that it was an error in the reading of the registration number and the fact he was 100 miles away from the alleged infraction, sadly the onus was put on him to prove it wasn’t him.

In saying that, he had a hell of a job sorting it out. Turned out it was the same model of car but a different colour, taken in the dark. It was a single letter error, something like a D instead of an O.

Best of luck Ryan  Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

Cheers Alan, the reg. number on their PCN images unmistakably presents as trying to be identical to ours🙄

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Does your car have an incontrol tracker. letters not necessarily in the right order

This is a good article on cloning and what victims should expect and can do

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thisism...-cars.html

[quote="Dixy"]Does your car have an incontrol tracker.[/quote]

Why do you ask Dixy?

I would imagine a tracker is a good way to prove where your actual car was at any given time.

Yep letters not necessarily in the right order

if you have a android phone you can use you can use maps and the tracking history (If switched on) as well. might not stand on its own but as part of your case. any receipts or card history too will help. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

Good luck to the OP & anyone else that gets "caught" by the same scam.
Vital to act quickly though otherwise it could escalate & end up with the big ugly men with the big ugly 4 x 4 on your doorstep.

DVLA by no-longer issuing tax discs have saved what ? Not a lot that's for sure when you consider their losses through RFL evasion & then factor in the costs of cloning. Tax discs were a good quick way of checking if a vehicle as actually taxed.

Maybe, we should look at the systems used in other countries where where you can only buy your actual physical plates from the authorities ?

Edited to make my points clear. 2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6

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In the U.K. you can only buy your plates from the authorities as well You can buy official plates without the paperwork. So no difference there. Likewise a piece of paper in the windscreen won’t stop that either.

If those will fully in compliant clone a vehicle they will always find a way to do it.

Not worried about the PCN or struggling to evidence why it’s not our car on that occasion. That’s incontrovertibly ‘nailed on’ without need to resort to tracker data. It’s the fact that unless or until the offending vehicle is traced and taken out of commission, each time the police/ ANPR are alerted, then our car is liable to be stopped because they won’t know which the genuine vehicle is and which is not... and potential inconveniences like that

when traffic wardens are ticketing vehicles wouldnt it be prudent for them to take a pic of the vin number which is visible in most cars...
this wont help in camera offences but its a start. ... - .- -.




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Get on DVLA and buy yourself a cheap plate and swap your car to that or see if they will issue you a new one.... So the cloned car is no longer a clone of yours but an flagged as an uninsured and untaxed vehicle and your car is not stopped by the rozzers as the new plate is not on the database.

If you already have a private then put that on retention and swap it back to its original plate for a while. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
FFRR 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography Santorini Black.
Fiat 500x 1.4 multiair Lounge 2015
2010 LR D4 Commercial 2.7 TDV6

Simples why did i not think of that one  2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone