Ok here' my thoughts on the L405 since i bought it (and compared to the L322 previously).

Good
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1) performance/ power/ suspension / breaks - so smooth to drive like a different car to previous
2) adaptive cruise down to zero mph make driving in heavy motorway traffic a lot easier / less stressful / arrive fresher
3) carplay and voice control (actually use this with apple phone and works so well)
4) less body roll in corners - reduces stress driving
5) mpg even on 4.4 is noticeably better (can get 30mpg on motorway)
6) massage seats (thought would be a gimmick but I actually use them) hot and cold seats which get hot and cold. (had to turn down heat cause got too hot something i never did before)
7) keyless entry is handy but insecure.

Bad
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1) Start stop
2) Sunglasses holder in door ok but not as good as when dedicated at the top.
3) controls like massage seats a little hidden in the software screens which can distract driving.
4) keyless entry - so handy but bad that is sooo insecure.

just my thoughts so far. --
On my third Full Fat RR
there's nothing like it.

Not sure if the 2017 is the same as the 2015 but if it is the seats can be accessed by a hard button above the climate controls. 2015 4.4 AB
GSXR 1000 K5
R1 1998

I am a big fan of start/stop... not because I actually use the feature (you can shut it off) but in order for that feature to work, everything has to be overbuilt to deal with the stresses of incessant start/stop. A bunch of overbuilt components doing a fraction of what they're designed to do with the feature off is great.

dolph34 wrote:

Not sure if the 2017 is the same as the 2015 but if it is the seats can be accessed by a hard button above the climate controls.

brad s1 wrote:

I am a big fan of start/stop... not because I actually use the feature (you can shut it off) but in order for that feature to work, everything has to be overbuilt to deal with the stresses of incessant start/stop. A bunch of overbuilt components doing a fraction of what they're designed to do with the feature off is great.

That’s a good point. Just wish u could switch off in software somewhere.

(Signature meridian sounds better with engine off so one perk there too. ) --
On my third Full Fat RR
there's nothing like it.

There is a button next to terrain response on mine... an A with a circle around it. Shuts the whole system off permanently.

In the 2015 the seat hard button gives you the seat menu , including massage. 2015 4.4 AB
GSXR 1000 K5
R1 1998

brad s1 wrote:

There is a button next to terrain response on mine... an A with a circle around it. Shuts the whole system off permanently.

dolph34 wrote:

In the 2015 the seat hard button gives you the seat menu , including massage.

it does bring up a picture of the cabin and you have to then press drivers seat (if not selected), massage on (we'll assume the strength is what you want and doesn't need changing), then heated/cooled on and then the amount (potentially six presses to get from hot to cool worst case). Then select passenger and do same if needed.... All of this is distracting.

by contrast the physical dials for climate and pressed for seat heated cooled are much simpler - muscle memory makes it almost automatic. Shame massage can't be controlled on the dial too.

(fully aware this is a first world problem ) --
On my third Full Fat RR
there's nothing like it.

Weird... Mine is a NAS 2016 and hitting that button just once has disabled the system completely.

My just over one month experience:

In to Guy Salmon in two weeks for warranty looks at; suspension clunking (and 4x4i screen shows at any time at least one strut with restricted movement), excessive transmission noise at low speeds (whining), laggy infotainment and partial front screen demister failure. Didn't notice these on short test drive or drive home in car. Time in traffic queues has flagged these up. Doesn't say much for the pre-sale checks....  17 MY Corris Grey 4.4 VAB
Silver MB R231 SL350

Ukandrewf wrote:

BAD
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1) Start stop
2) Sunglasses holder in door ok but not as good as when dedicated at the top.
3) controls like massage seats a little hidden in the software screens which can distract driving.
4) keyless entry - so handy but bad that is sooo insecure.

Triarii wrote:

1)4x4i screen shows at any time at least one strut with restricted movement),
2)laggy infotainment
3)partial front screen demister failure.

Cars going in later this month. I now suspect the screen issue is the blower having had ducting come adrift on that side. Other issues are still there. 17 MY Corris Grey 4.4 VAB
Silver MB R231 SL350