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| CSK Member Since: 15 Oct 2010 Location: St Tropez Posts: 750   
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I don't think clients, especially the North American ones would consider the replacement of the V8 by a 6 cylinder engine an upgrade! The 5L Supercharged is a peach of an engine and suits the Range Rover really well. The PHEV Hybrid system is OK for someone doing short trips and a lot of town driving but then again is a Range Rover really suited for this kind of use? But as soon as you travel long distance and the electric power reserve runs out, you are basically left with a considerably heavier car than a non-Hybrid version of the same car powered by a noisy 4 cylinder petrol engine. No thanks! There's probably some improvement left in the 5L engine, like cylinder deactivation and why not in conjunction with some form of Hybrid system for low speed driving so we can still enjoy driving a V8 petrol powered Range Rover for some time. |
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18th Dec 2017 9:21am |
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| Philip Member Since: 05 Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 2567 
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The Americans are having to get used to it - e.g. Ford and Ecoboost V6s where V8s used to be. Emissions and economy will force it.
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18th Dec 2017 10:05am |
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| Emperor Mong Member Since: 07 Jul 2010 Location: London Posts: 1435  
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Edited for accuracy.
Yeah but I suspect my driving is probably 90% of journeys less than 30 miles. The other 10% are 200+ miles. I suspect, when people break down their driving, a large proportion (perhaps even a majority) would have similar habits. That's why PHEVs make sense. Sadly, the smaller boot means I won't buy a PHEV. |
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18th Dec 2017 12:34pm |
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| Vogue Member Since: 31 Jan 2008 Location: on the hill Posts: 3747
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The day they stop putting a V8 in a Range Rover is the day they lose me as a customer. It's the main fundamental reason I buy them and have owned no other make of vehicle - ever. 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17 |
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18th Dec 2017 12:42pm |
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| Red Merle Member Since: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2158
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While the magazines may have guessed at dates, I don’t believe that JLR has ever released a date. Considering that JLR have had to design and build an entire range of engines from scratch, in a new factory, with a new workforce, I’d say they’re right to do it at their own pace and not BMW N47 style disasters! |
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18th Dec 2017 1:10pm |
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| Philip Member Since: 05 Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 2567
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Rumour was that Land Rover were going to use the next-generation BMW twin-turbo V8. |
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18th Dec 2017 1:22pm |
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| KurtVerbose Member Since: 08 Aug 2010 Location: Les Arses Posts: 5848  
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What I'm hoping for is 3 litre straight 6 with 500bhp and the hybrid system from the 4 cylinder. I think with that a lot of requirements would be met for speed/refinement/economy/emissions and people wouldn't miss the current petrol V8.
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18th Dec 2017 2:26pm |
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| Philip Member Since: 05 Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 2567
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Yes, they're still playing catch-up when the Porsche hybrids are a 455 bhp V6 (which the Bentyaga will presumably get) and a 666 bhp V8. |
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18th Dec 2017 4:22pm |
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| Red Merle Member Since: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2158
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18th Dec 2017 8:34pm |
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| Philip Member Since: 05 Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 2567
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Works both ways - BMW get cash to develop what is effectively a niche engine. |
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18th Dec 2017 8:56pm |
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| vanquishspirit Member Since: 10 Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 131
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Ditto..I have owned new Rangies since 1989 and prior to that a number of second hand cars. V8 and Range Rover are one and the same to me. I think the SDV8 is a great engine with a few provisos. I planted the throttle from standstill today -1 in Kent, to get across a road. I swear nothing much happened for about 1.5 seconds. That does wind me up because its a pokey engine normally , just not when you need to zip across a road quickly. And it takes an age to warm the engine, and seems to vibrate more when cold. Now its started farting at me when I lock the door and walk away! I do love a Range though. 2006 S/C owned from new. Black, sand with black inserts. Shes a thirsty girl. ( now gone) 1972 Suffix A fully restored 2 door 1970, chassis number 26 the first of the press launch cars, Masai Red 2013 4.4SDV8 Autobiograpahy |
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28th Dec 2017 7:16pm |
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| Red Merle Member Since: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2158
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That’s very odd, my SDV8 seems to have very little lag, with my only experience of anything with less lag being supercharged. |
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28th Dec 2017 7:51pm |
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| vanquishspirit Member Since: 10 Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 131
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I think you find that I am not the only owner who finds the lag annoying if not a bit dangerous. I have to leave a lot of gaps in traffic as I am never totally convinced it will spool up in time. I did have a SC a few years back which was obviously quite the reverse. One had to be mindful not to snap the passengers necks back to sharply. Maybe its worse when its cold as today. 2006 S/C owned from new. Black, sand with black inserts. Shes a thirsty girl. ( now gone)
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28th Dec 2017 8:09pm |
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| Vogue Member Since: 31 Jan 2008 Location: on the hill Posts: 3747
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My last TDV8 4.4 used to suffer badly from lag in D mode. Sport mode wasn't too bad.
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28th Dec 2017 8:30pm |
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