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Andy S



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So what's the problem?

Last Saturday, 14th January, I was all set to go shooting. An early start, 7.15 am and with the kit in the car I hit the starter button but all I could hear was the engine turning but not starting. It was cold and frosty, so maybe it might need another turn. 4 goes and still nothing and then it wouldn't even turn over. So I called LR Assist, who turned out a couple of hours later. The very helpful tech tried and got the same thing, but on the fourth attempt it started. He plugged in his computer and read for error codes, but none showed. He suggested it was odd and was concerned I might get stuck again, so suggested we took it to my dealers. So we set off and got to the dealer without incident. Tech spoke to the service adviser and I left the car with them, explaining I would be away for a week on holiday, so no rush.

Dealer called me today. Car started normally and no error codes show, so asked for the symptoms. Explained again and they said they would investigate further.

So fellow enthusiasts, any ideas? Car has never failed to start before, has 71,000 miles, full MDSH and runs beautifully. Is it a glitch, or is it something more serious? I'm off ski-ing in 3 weeks and don't fancy being stuck in France with a failed car!

Thanks.

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northernmonkeyjones



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Sticking fuel pump, freed itself up?

Just an idea Thumbs Up There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Andy S



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Thanks. Would the cold make it stick? I know diesel can wax up, but I only use Shell V Power or BP ultimate, both of which in their winter formulation shouldn't wax up.

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It's a FFRR, it knows when you really need to get from A to B and therefore likes to throw the odd spanner in the works leaving you stranded... The joy of FFRR ownership

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dhallworth



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Could be the crankshaft sensor. If the crankshaft sensor is at fault the ECU doesn't even register the fact the engine is turning over so it won't even attempt to fire therefore no fault codes stored either. I've had this on a few cars over the years.

Fuel pumps or the likes usually cause low fuel pressure errors to be stored.

Hopefully it's something simple and it's with a decent dealer! Thumbs Up

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miggit



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Whistle if any sensor is sending the wrong signal or no signal the ECU will record it..... so you need to be looking for some thing that isn't monitored... like water.. in the fuel and blocking the fuel system, or a batch of fuel that hasn't got quite as much anti wax in it as claimed. All winter diesel has anti wax mixed in it.. cos if it didn't it wouldn't come out of the pump, however the pump (fuel station) is less exposed than the fuel system on a car... so maybe a cold wind did blow on that fateful day and the fuel system froze over Shocked Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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dhallworth



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Whistle

Ours didn't.

The sensor packed in with no fault codes stored. When using diagnostics the dealer told us that the engine was cranking but not showing any engine speed on the diagnostics. One new sensor and it started first time. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
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miggit



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Shocked Does not compute Shocked if stops the engine from running then it should be stored.. Rolling Eyes not that I'm doubting you, it just doesn't make sense.. however if this is true, maybe the dealer can unplug it to see if the same fault occurs, and check the sensor for cracks... I imagine that it's a Hall effect sensor and a bit of moisture and sub zero temps would render it inoperable Rolling Eyes Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Andy S



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Heard from the dealer today. Low pressure fuel pump is the culprit, which is to be replaced under extended warranty. Pleased its sorted.

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miggit



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Whistle Well that should have been recorded, as it throws up a fault code Rolling Eyes Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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