No it's the other way around the bumper has to come off to get at the lights

I found that with the PDC turned on and the engine off, with the doors shut, if you get your ear right up close to the sensor you can hear the tick tick sound... but you have to concentrate.. they aren't loud

I also found that if you very careful you can pop a sensor out with the aid of a small screwdriver.. negating the need to remove bumpers... I'd be inclined to try a front sensor on the back... just to be sure.. it's not unheard of them all failing.

Many years ago my Dad was on his way to the other house in Cornwall, and was going down the A30 at night... suddenly he was plunged into darkness He managed to get to a layby and waited for the nice AA man.. The nice AA man turned up and started checking fuses, then had the dash apart to look for broken wires... turned out both light bulbs had blown and he had stripped half the car for a 2 minute job

If your sensors had failed from the middle to the outer then you might not have noticed until it all fell silent  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

hi miggit, good point, for all i know perhaps there was only on still working, and the other had already failed ? i will try popping on out if i can without removing the dreaded you know what,

re your first comment; the video on powerful shows that the lights have come out first before the bumper or is that what you just said , it was so long ago i forgot already

When I did my lights you have to force the bumper down to get them out... and I think there is a bolt down there too... I do remember thinking that is was a bloody stupid design  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

well im sure the guys on here will give the correct method, be it one wayor the other

HI GUYS

please excuse my ignorance, but i have done as suggested and switched on the sensors with the ignition on , door closed etc and tried to listen for a clicking sound but nothing from any of them on the front,

however i cant quite understand something, if the clicking sound is something that shows they ARE working corrretly? then how can you get that close to them to listen, WITHOUT THEM GOING OFF?

or have i missed the point??

bob

If you get your ear within an inch of the sensor, you should hopefully hear a sound like a gas cooker igniter going..... tick,tick,tick...... or click,click,click..... same sound different spelling BUT it isn't as loud as a cooker, so you will have to get close, real close  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

yes i understand what your saying, and this is the sound they make if they are working correctly? SO if they are making the clicking sound then why are they not making the warning noise out the speaker !!! ???


BOB

Laryngitis

Sorry couldn't resist

If you have the clicking but no BLEEP! that could be tricky... the fact that you've got the ticking would suggest that the DPC is working to a fashion.. have you another speaker that could be lashed up to test? About the only other thing that I can think of that doesn't involve a new DPC  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

H MIGGIT



Ok i will try to explain ; what i was unclear about is this; i understand it that if they dont click, then they are not working yes, so if they were were clicking, and i was listening in front of them, then surely they should be making a noise out the speaker as well , so if that was the case, why the point of listening

Anyway, some confusion with what my problem/situation is this end IM not suggesting my ones are clicking as they are not; well not that i can hear, none of them are working, or should i say i have no sound coming from the speaker to suggest it is receiving the signal

im talking about the the front ones, The rears work and as i walk in front of each one, it sounds out the speaker,

so no problem at the back

on the morning that they stopped working at the front, i booked the car into the local dealer; ( in france ), and they insisted that they were all working, but the speaker was not; ??

they ordered a new one, i went back to have it done

after an hour, the guy came out the workshop and told me they had put the new one one but it had made no difference, so handed me back the keys and walked off and left me standing in the middle of the showroom !!!

so thats where we are to date;

i assume that the rear sensors do not use the same speaker ?? or do they french fitters

bob

H MIGGIT



Ok i will try to explain ; what i was unclear about is this; i understand it that if they dont click, then they are not working yes, so if they were were clicking, and i was listening in front of them, then surely they should be making a noise out the speaker as well , so if that was the case, why the point of listening

Anyway, some confusion with what my problem/situation is this end IM not suggesting my ones are clicking as they are not; well not that i can hear, none of them are working, or should i say i have no sound coming from the speaker to suggest it is receiving the signal

im talking about the the front ones, The rears work and as i walk in front of each one, it sounds out the speaker,

so no problem at the back

on the morning that they stopped working at the front, i booked the car into the local dealer; ( in france ), and they insisted that they were all working, but the speaker was not; ??

they ordered a new one, i went back to have it done

after an hour, the guy came out the workshop and told me they had put the new one one but it had made no difference, so handed me back the keys and walked off and left me standing in the middle of the showroom !!!

so thats where we are to date;

i assume that the rear sensors do not use the same speaker ?? or do they french fitters

bob

Bob,
If it is of any use to you I have a spare park distance controller in a box in the garage doing nothing at the moment.
It's the one with 3 plug sockets on the top, blue, black and white.
I know for a fact it works.
I would be quite happy to post it out to you to try it so as to at least eliminate the problem.
If you are interested pm me your address.

hi mate,

very kind of you, have just pm my delivery address to you



bob

You do realise that there are 2 speakers... one in the rear and one in the front..... The PDC unit is in the rear so there is a lot of wire between the PDC and the front speaker... and even more between the front sensors and PDC.... So there is a lot of places for it all to go wrong. I think I'd be inclined to try the other PDC unit before I went looking for a broken wire. I'm assuming that you've had it on a IID tool or NavCoder just to see if there are any fault codes that might shed a bit more light on the problem  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

well i dont know if the garage had it on a diagnostic, all i know is they said it was the speaker and not the sensors, but now i wonder if it i a break somewhere, bumholes i say, but i will try the main unit first, i did consider buying one of these id tools; are they a good buy ?

bob

You can have a look at mine to see what they can do if you like.  John
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