Bu**er - I thought the Austin Maxi was the first Hatchback  Back in a Defender!!

the 1960 hillman imp had a lifting glass panel, does that qualify as a hatchback.. ... - .- -.




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As Range Rover owners I do think there is a bit of Pots and Kettles going on here!
Just can't see how anyone could describe a fullfat as attractive! It is a brick shaped SUV!
We drive them for what they do and how they drive. Like an RR, the Bentley makes much more sense from the drivers seat.

I must confess a slight bias here as I spent 2 years developing this even more ugly Bentley!

Disagree - the L405 is less dignified than the L322, but the Bentayga is just plain hideous. The proportions themselves (constrained by the shared platform) mean that it never had a chance.

In the good old days a Bentley or Rolls Royce was the height of sophistication, and announced that you had arrived in style............. that new thing announces that you have arrived with NO style, poor eye sight and no taste, and with all that Chrome is squarely aimed at the bling brigade....... should be a big hit

I wonder how long it will take for someone to fit one with 'Spinners'  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

Beauty, they say, is in the eye of the beholder
Familiarity must also be a factor.
I do know that race cars look quite strange to most. They have no input at all from the felt-tip fairies, only aerodynamicists and engineers.
However, when and if they become successful, people have been heard to mutter things like 'sweeping lines' 'gorgeous' and 'fabulous looking'
It's probably all about perception
But what would I know I are just a Engineer.....  2012MY Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Vogue...now gone!
2007MY Mercedes C200 Estate 'Albert'
1997MY Defender 90 TDI 'Vera'

^^ I wasn't referring to the Continental racer / sports car, recon that's an improvement on spinners

I was thinking about the Bentayga, the styling of nightmares, the face that only a parent could love Do they make automotive burkas ? Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

I shall keep my new one quiet on here then..... 2016 (L405) Autobiography in Black with Ivory - for ULEZ
2014 (L405) VSE in Black with Ivory
2011 (L322) VSE in Black with Ivory
2005 (3.2 V6) Porsche Cayenne in Black with Savanna
1999 (P38) VSE in Burgundy (?) with Sand

Good shout! The fact that the prototypes were actually quicker 0-100MPH than any of the Conti GT's should be kept quiet...
That and the fact they will be quieter, smoother, more comfortable and inevitably more reliable than any full fat ....best we don't say too much about that either
Wish I could afford one!  2012MY Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Vogue...now gone!
2007MY Mercedes C200 Estate 'Albert'
1997MY Defender 90 TDI 'Vera'

It's not written anywhere that STYLE has to be reliable, and I know which I'd rather be seen in, if a ffrr is good enough for the Queen........  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

I've not seen one on the road yet , but I saw the new tesla for the first time yesterday and that gets my vote .

Although my favourite as I spot cars on my commute is the new Ford Explorer .
On a par with the rr sport and looks better than the full fat .

Although that could change the more I see 405s ...

New Ford Explorer or Disco 5....

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miggit wrote:

It's not written anywhere that STYLE has to be reliable, and I know which I'd rather be seen in, if a ffrr is good enough for the Queen........

I agree! Just ask the Italians
You are quite right about the Queen too, but just look what she uses for really special events...



I know I'm always going to be in the minority of people who put function over form, I don't give a flying 'fingy what people think of what I'm driving..as long as I'm having a good time in the driving seat  2012MY Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Vogue...now gone!
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1997MY Defender 90 TDI 'Vera'

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I know I'm always going to be in the minority of people who put function over form, I don't give a flying 'fingy what people think of what I'm driving..as long as I'm having a good time in the driving seat

That's what it is that makes the FFRR (more so the L322) "attractive". It's a simple functional design, created to encase workings of the car, provide useable space and make it a pleasant place to be. Just because something is big and boxy doesn't mean it isn't attractive/beautiful/elegant. The L322 has the right balance of simple design without overdoing anything, IMO, the L405 is good too, but slightly less classy, IMO. Beauty to me is "not to this, not to that" etc. The FFRR is beautiful for not trying, which makes it an ideal car for those of us, like me, who don't feel their car has to make a "fashion statement" (LR's market down to a T, I would say, but sadly one they are inclined to move away from now. ). That's how I see it anyway.

Perception is also major factor of course. Some people are inclinded to think something is good/attractive because they are told so, or that it has other values that they consider good. Take the Bentley - how many people will think it's beautiful because of the badge? How many will think it's beautiful because they are told it's "modern" and other such nonsense? There's a growing proportion of the world that is inclined to let others form their opinions just because they are seen to be in some sort of position of authority (so-called expert/government/large company etc.).  Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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