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Jonno Member Since: 08 Jun 2011 Location: Eastnor HR8 Posts: 191 |
Fault codes show system is running too lean on lpg. Could probably do with a remap on lpg using software and lead (I've got them)
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4th Jun 2014 7:37am |
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Cam-Tech-Craig Member Since: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 16294 |
Sounds like either a badly set up, maintained or installed system to me... In a perfect world the EML should never come on! So if its on for the majority of time!, you have issues! And ones i would get addressed sooner rather than later sir... |
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4th Jun 2014 7:40am |
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ebajema Member Since: 24 Mar 2011 Location: New Plymouth Posts: 4782 |
On mine the original software of the Engine Management was a bit to "critical" on petrol (no LPG installed), same MY as yours by the way. Once I installed the latest version of the EM ECU software (took about 20 mins using the Faultmate), things were fine. I do have to mention that my fuel pump was also replaced and the entire fuel system and inlet tract were cleaned. That should also have helped.
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4th Jun 2014 7:57am |
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Robert Member Since: 25 Oct 2011 Location: Perigueux Posts: 2289 |
It should not show, and a good service (every year) of the lpg system is a must. A few years ago My 02 BMW engined FF had the same issue, if I accelerated hard. After a visit and reset of the lpg system it was over. They told me the car ran to lean. That was a Prins system. Now I run a BRC flashlube system on my 07 MY and have never seen that light. |
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4th Jun 2014 8:21am |
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lee58uk Member Since: 22 May 2014 Location: wellingborough Posts: 23 |
Ok thank guys. Sounds like i have a problem on my hands i was thinking of getting the software and lead any recomendations on costs and were to pick them up ? Thx Lee |
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4th Jun 2014 8:45am |
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Cam-Tech-Craig Member Since: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 16294 |
Surely its best left to the professionals Lee... Are you a tuner by trade?
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4th Jun 2014 9:38am |
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lee58uk Member Since: 22 May 2014 Location: wellingborough Posts: 23 |
Yes your right i will look into a garage first. I like to pick up new skills but love my rangie to much for it to be a guinie pig. Any one know of a lpg service centre near rushden. Northampton area? I did see one in Finden northants, has any one used them! |
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4th Jun 2014 10:19am |
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Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8246 |
Defo get it set up professionally, it could have been poorly set up to start with or it could be the diaphragm in the vaporiser getting weak and changing the mixture.
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4th Jun 2014 10:50am |
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lee58uk Member Since: 22 May 2014 Location: wellingborough Posts: 23 |
Took RR to LPG spdcialist in Findon nothamptshire. He said he will service it for £60. But said being a SC it will be some thing I sill hsve to live with the check engine light being on as its just what happends to a SC . He said if it really boths me I can get the pfogram change to a hot climatr program on the petrol side. But if running ok it will be ok ? |
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14th Jun 2014 7:23am |
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Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8246 |
Find a new LPG installer, this is how it works is... the petrol injectors are not doing anything, the petrol ECU doesn't know this. When running on petrol the ECU constantly takes readings from various sensors on the engine and adjusts the length of time the petrol injectors are open for to keep the car running at it's peak. The LPG system uses the pulses from the petrol ECU to fire the gas injectors instead. The petrol ECU doesn't know any different. However, the LPG injectors need to open for slightly longer than the petrol ones because of the lower calorific value of LPG so the LPG ECU adds a correction factor to the pulses from the petrol ECU. If the correction factor is wrong, the petrol ECU corrects the pulse length to get the engine running correctly but also detects that the pulse duration is outside the limits it expects it to be so brings on the engine warning light. The installer can set it up correctly by observing the fuel trims via the OBD port, if the gas ECU can't be set up to get the trims to an acceptable level then the system is not suitable for your SC, they are tricky to set up and need top quality components.
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14th Jun 2014 1:24pm |
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lee58uk Member Since: 22 May 2014 Location: wellingborough Posts: 23 |
Ok thanks, i will try some one else, i assume the LPG service for 60 pounds will be just changing the 2 filters and a quick glance over?
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14th Jun 2014 3:12pm |
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Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8246 |
If you get stuck I know a guy up here in Hull who is ex British Aerospace and pretty anal about LPG, he would sort it for you, send me a PM if you want to use him..... Pete
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15th Jun 2014 12:52pm |
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AL121 Member Since: 16 Jun 2014 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 1 |
HI I hav ethe same problem if you find a fix please let me know. I have etried three LPG garages to date and no luck |
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16th Jun 2014 9:40am |
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Full Fat Ray Member Since: 23 Jan 2014 Location: Cwm Llinau Posts: 574 |
Take a look at my earlier posts on this (search on here using 'P0170' and you should find them). 2006 (56 Reg) 4.4 V8 Vogue In Bonatti Grey (Gorgeous!!) |
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22nd Jun 2014 3:37pm |
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