Advertise on fullfatrr.com »

Home > LPG > LPG and check engine light
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 1 of 3 123>
Print this entire topic · 
lee58uk



Member Since: 22 May 2014
Location: wellingborough
Posts: 23

United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Java Black
LPG and check engine light

Hi does any one else have the problem when using LPG (BRC kit) that the yellow check engine light is always on, If i run it on petrol it turns off after a while. The P codes are normally P0174, P0175 plus another mostly injector faults. Is this an issue with the kit not set up right or jus a by product of using a LPG kit and the car not being fooled to well that the petrol injectors have been switched off?

cheers
Lee

Post #263105 4th Jun 2014 7:29am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Jonno



Member Since: 08 Jun 2011
Location: Eastnor HR8
Posts: 191

United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Causeway Grey

Fault codes show system is running too lean on lpg. Could probably do with a remap on lpg using software and lead (I've got them)

Check light should not come on with a brc kit.

Jonno 5.0 supercharged autobiography
Gone-4.4 Vogue Lpg now unmapped
4.6 HSET Turbo Lpg mapped
Gone-Defender 90 200tdi
Gone - 3.9 Sprintex supercharged LPG
Gone - 3.9 Vogue LPG

Post #263108 4th Jun 2014 7:37am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Cam-Tech-Craig



Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 16294

England 2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Sounds like either a badly set up, maintained or installed system to me... In a perfect world the EML should never come on! So if its on for the majority of time!, you have issues! And ones i would get addressed sooner rather than later sir... Bow down

Post #263110 4th Jun 2014 7:40am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
ebajema



Member Since: 24 Mar 2011
Location: New Plymouth
Posts: 4782

New Zealand 2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Galway Green

On mine the original software of the Engine Management was a bit to "critical" on petrol (no LPG installed), same MY as yours by the way. Once I installed the latest version of the EM ECU software (took about 20 mins using the Faultmate), things were fine. I do have to mention that my fuel pump was also replaced and the entire fuel system and inlet tract were cleaned. That should also have helped.

anyway, after that was all done, NO MORE EML !!! MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

Post #263120 4th Jun 2014 7:57am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Robert



Member Since: 25 Oct 2011
Location: Perigueux
Posts: 2289

France 2007 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

It should not show, and a good service (every year) of the lpg system is a must. A few years ago My 02 BMW engined FF had the same issue, if I accelerated hard. After a visit and reset of the lpg system it was over. They told me the car ran to lean. That was a Prins system. Now I run a BRC flashlube system on my 07 MY and have never seen that light.

Post #263128 4th Jun 2014 8:21am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
lee58uk



Member Since: 22 May 2014
Location: wellingborough
Posts: 23

United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Java Black

Ok thank guys. Sounds like i have a problem on my hands i was thinking of getting the software and lead any recomendations on costs and were to pick them up ? Thx Lee

Post #263136 4th Jun 2014 8:45am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Cam-Tech-Craig



Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 16294

England 2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Surely its best left to the professionals Lee... Are you a tuner by trade?

I say this because our LPG man runs two laptops simultaneously, one reading the petrol fuel trim and the other the LPG... He then tunes the LPG from there, but there is more to it then pressing a few buttons on a laptop Thumbs Up

Ask the forum for recommendations for trusted LPG garages would be my advise sir Bow down

Post #263142 4th Jun 2014 9:38am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
lee58uk



Member Since: 22 May 2014
Location: wellingborough
Posts: 23

United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Java Black

Yes your right i will look into a garage first. I like to pick up new skills but love my rangie to much for it to be a guinie pig. Any one know of a lpg service centre near rushden. Northampton area? I did see one in Finden northants, has any one used them!

Post #263150 4th Jun 2014 10:19am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Haylands



Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8246

England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Defo get it set up professionally, it could have been poorly set up to start with or it could be the diaphragm in the vaporiser getting weak and changing the mixture.

LPG installer should be able to pick up which it is.. Pete
__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

Post #263160 4th Jun 2014 10:50am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
lee58uk



Member Since: 22 May 2014
Location: wellingborough
Posts: 23

United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Java Black

Took RR to LPG spdcialist in Findon nothamptshire. He said he will service it for £60. But said being a SC it will be some thing I sill hsve to live with the check engine light being on as its just what happends to a SC . He said if it really boths me I can get the pfogram change to a hot climatr program on the petrol side. But if running ok it will be ok ?

Post #265345 14th Jun 2014 7:23am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Haylands



Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8246

England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Find a new LPG installer, this is how it works is... the petrol injectors are not doing anything, the petrol ECU doesn't know this. When running on petrol the ECU constantly takes readings from various sensors on the engine and adjusts the length of time the petrol injectors are open for to keep the car running at it's peak. The LPG system uses the pulses from the petrol ECU to fire the gas injectors instead. The petrol ECU doesn't know any different. However, the LPG injectors need to open for slightly longer than the petrol ones because of the lower calorific value of LPG so the LPG ECU adds a correction factor to the pulses from the petrol ECU. If the correction factor is wrong, the petrol ECU corrects the pulse length to get the engine running correctly but also detects that the pulse duration is outside the limits it expects it to be so brings on the engine warning light. The installer can set it up correctly by observing the fuel trims via the OBD port, if the gas ECU can't be set up to get the trims to an acceptable level then the system is not suitable for your SC, they are tricky to set up and need top quality components.

If it continues to run lean, it can totally destroy the engine, it will run very hot and could melt the pistons...

Any installer who says you have to live with it does not have the knowledge to do it correctly. Pete
__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

Post #265410 14th Jun 2014 1:24pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
lee58uk



Member Since: 22 May 2014
Location: wellingborough
Posts: 23

United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Java Black

Ok thanks, i will try some one else, i assume the LPG service for 60 pounds will be just changing the 2 filters and a quick glance over?

It does always seam very hot and a lot of ticking noise if you hoof it for a bit after you turn it off. I also have had to have the exhaust manifold gasket changed as all the bolt come lose. may be a heat issue.

thanks for you feed back i was going to leave it but now will try some one else

Post #265421 14th Jun 2014 3:12pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Haylands



Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8246

England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

If you get stuck I know a guy up here in Hull who is ex British Aerospace and pretty anal about LPG, he would sort it for you, send me a PM if you want to use him..... Pete
__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

Post #265553 15th Jun 2014 12:52pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
AL121



Member Since: 16 Jun 2014
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 1

United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Java Black
LPG nad EML light

HI I hav ethe same problem if you find a fix please let me know. I have etried three LPG garages to date and no luck

Post #265664 16th Jun 2014 9:40am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Full Fat Ray



Member Since: 23 Jan 2014
Location: Cwm Llinau
Posts: 574

Wales 2006 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey

Take a look at my earlier posts on this (search on here using 'P0170' and you should find them). Thumbs Up 2006 (56 Reg) 4.4 V8 Vogue In Bonatti Grey (Gorgeous!!)

Post #266740 22nd Jun 2014 3:37pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 1 of 3 123>
All times are GMT

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
fullfatrr.com RSS Feed - All Forums


Switch to Mobile site