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47p2



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Rear height sensors

Along with all the other parts I'm changing on the FFRR it looks like I need a rear height sensor.

Does anyone know if they are plug and play or do they need to be set up on Testbook?

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New sensor will need calibrating, it will put the susp inactive fault on if you have not got it already if you change it.
Autologic will also recalibrate new sensors.
I have'nt tried RAC yet but it may be possible with that also.

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Thanks, I spoke to LR yesterday and they confirmed this so I'm not going to change them just now

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RANGEROVER wrote:
New sensor will need calibrating, it will put the susp inactive fault on if you have not got it already if you change it.
Autologic will also recalibrate new sensors.
I have'nt tried RAC yet but it may be possible with that also.


There is no recalibration option in RAC (yet)

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ric355 wrote:
RANGEROVER wrote:
New sensor will need calibrating, it will put the susp inactive fault on if you have not got it already if you change it.
Autologic will also recalibrate new sensors.
I have'nt tried RAC yet but it may be possible with that also.


There is no recalibration option in RAC (yet)



Shame Big Cry

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47p2 wrote:
ric355 wrote:
RANGEROVER wrote:
New sensor will need calibrating, it will put the susp inactive fault on if you have not got it already if you change it.
Autologic will also recalibrate new sensors.
I have'nt tried RAC yet but it may be possible with that also.


There is no recalibration option in RAC (yet)



Shame Big Cry


Indeed. The heights shown by RAC are all over the place on mine but it still works fine. To be honest I'm not entirely sure if RAC is showing the correct values, they are so far out. The values it is showing do appear in the raw ECU message it displays though, but they are a long way off. One will show +400mm and another -132mm which is of course not reflecting reality. It could just be they need a calibration but if that is the case it doesn't seem to be bothering the ECU because it rises and falls correctly.

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my values are out as well but not as much as yours ric, again i also have no problem rising ..

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Took the FFRR out yesterday and was getting HDC Inactive, Air Suspension Inactive, ABS light and orange (!) light. This was the first time this had happened and when I had been working on the rear suspension I found one of the sensors was a bit suspect.

I switched off the engine a few times during my journey and everything reset, but once I reached 40mph the warnings appeared again. Another few stops en-route proved fruitless and the sign kept coming up on the dash. Once reset the suspension would manually move when the dash switch was selected so I knew at least it was working, but something was causing it to go into safe mode. I visited an indy and he told me a few things it could be ranging from a broken wire to a dud compressor, but I wasn't convinced so I have now ordered new height sensors. On the way home after the indy reset the fault it popped up yet again, this time at 45mph, so before joining the motorway I switched everything off once again then moved the suspension down and back to normal as I had done on previous occasions. Once on the motorway the speed was 55mph before the warnings came on, so I stopped a few miles from home and switched everything off, did another manual down and back to normal and this time there were no warnings so I decided to stay on the motorway and go for a run, suspension dropped as it should at 70mph and returned to normal once off the motorway, so whatever the problem was had cleared.

I returned home and soaked the sensor bolts with some penetrating fluid for a couple of hours and then started about removing them. I was unsure if they were hex or torx fittings as they were covered in rust and crud, best play safe and chap a T25 torx onto it and the bolts came out without too much of a problem, once out I was able to clean the bolt head to reveal it is actually a 4mm hex, but the T25 gives a better grip for removal and does no harm to the head.

The plastic housing that the bolts screw into is well and truly fu-barred and another winter's salt on the road would have burst the sensor off its bracket so it looks like I have changed these in time to prevent a breakdown. Once I fit the new sensors I will have the height calibrated before having my steering geometry done.

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For those interested in what's inside the sensor
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and behind the circuit board
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New rear sensors now in my possession and I'm just about to fit them.
One thing that did puzzle me was what should the end look like? On one side the rubber broke when I tried to remove it a couple of weeks ago and I did a temporary repair with cable ties and a metal sleeve, the other side however was a completely different shape which by looking at it fits neatly onto the suspension arm, although it turns out that it has corroded almost to the point of turning to powder. The ends should be round and have a metal insert as can be seen in the picture below

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[EDIT]

Now fitted and need to have them adjusted to level of the vehicle as it's sitting 2cm low on the near side Big Cry

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If your round my neck of the woods your welcome to use my RAC to calibrate the suspension. I'm on the Wirral so quite a way from you but the offer is there. If not maybe another member closer could help. [img]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rob2529/range-rover[img/]
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Thanks for the offer Rob Thumbs Up but I would spend more on fuel than it would cost to have it calibrated up here Big Cry

I do need to buy myself a plug in FFRR thingy, but still unsure which one to go for Big Cry

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Tut TuT Tut … Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Can't believe that someone who has a F Censored K off garage does not have one of those Laughing Laughing

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The problem is trying to get the right one that meets my needs Big Cry

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Buy both! Think the faultmate is the best but cost a fortune. [img]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rob2529/range-rover[img/]
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47p2 wrote:
The problem is trying to get the right one that meets my needs Big Cry


john, if you want to send one of your helicopters to collect mine ,you can borrow it to do your bits.. Wink

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