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darren3005

Member Since: 01 Nov 2023
Location: Somerset
Posts: 66

2015 Range Rover Vogue TDV6 Santorini Black

so I had another AR on the way home today, but its gone against what i believe is true reading these posts. Regen started at ~76'c oil temp and only traveling about 40mph. i managed to speed up but met quite a bit of traffic. The regen went on for about 40 minutes with two or three stops and speed lower than 25MPH. At ~50mph the soot levels started to drop but when I finally made it to the motorway the soot levels dropped to 8% and the regen indicator went from yes to know. (quite like that)
i tohught that a stop or low speed would stop the regen but seems not

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You've bought WHAT!!

20th Feb 2025 5:15pm

tomiRR

Member Since: 06 Jan 2025
Location: Europe
Posts: 14

2013 Range Rover Vogue TDV6 Aleutian Silver

Kot wrote:
tomiRR wrote:
Dear Friends,

It seems I have to buy a new DPF to my car.

How have you come to that conclusion?

DPF's can be cleaned just G it using your location to find Garages near you.
A suitable OBD2 tool can force a Regeneration and also indicate if there are any sensor failures which could also be the culprit.
DPF can be cut out, and physically cleaned and installed for around £300 in UK, probably cheaper in Europe. Do a search on this forum there are lots of threads to study!

Dear Kot,

Thank you very much for your attention!
I really don't want to ruin this topic with my problem, so if moderators put it away, I won't complain.

My story:

Bought a 2013 TDV6
Regeneration smoke occured....more and more often
Brought to service....turbo issue.....refubished....DPF disassembling, felxing, phisically cleaned, re-welded, EGRs, gaskets checked...all good, full timing belt system replacement. Engien got oil every 10kkm, now ODO 160.000km.
1 mounth (600km) later.....blue smoke again....unsuccesfull regen, since my wife was driving kids to school. (bought vgate icar BLE4, paid iCar Scanner app, only soot concentration data able ~live, wrote to Stanislav, no answer)
3 weeks (500km) later.....blue smoke (no vgate tool during ride)
1 day (80km) later.....blue smoke 30+g soot concentration went "down" 21,96g
1 day (80km) later.....blue smoke 29g to 23g (also confusing that mark went from 22 to 19 in only one day)

Circumstances: winter..last days -10celsius, car parks outside, 5-10 min warming before kick of.
Route: Every day in the morning and afternoon to school for pick up the kids. Distance is 4km with a ~10% incline at the very end. Then park at the school, wait for 1-2 mins to cool turbos, then go home or to some flat terrain in the city for shopping.

Now I have 1 succesfull, 8 unsuccessfull and 1 demanded regens, but all data seems so unreliable me from the vgate-CarScanner combo, especially for my car's weak profile.

No comsumption elevating, no power loss, no kicking shifting. Everything work absolutely fine, but the blue smoke.

Outside conditions just don't meet the regen requirements since its always under freezing point in the morning, when it starts. I guess the exhaust system just can't reach the suggested temp (again no data for this car profile in the app. I can choose Jag 3.0tdv6, but then absoultely no DPF data.

So wether the regens not succeed, only the filter lamp would have to show up on the screen, but it did only once and went after ~50km drive.
My main concern is, why the blue some comes, which make me totally shame in the morning traffic.

Tomorrow I will have a 650km drive, so hope to have some succesfull regen and clean up the soot..

I'm just desparate...

The car got after buying: new timing belt system, turbo refubishment, rear prop shaft, engine mounts, trans and diff oil replacement, all new swing-arms, new batteries and some pinkie replacement like electronic mirror setting buttons. (Spent ~10k- usd, just because love the car and want(ed) to make a life-time vehicle. Seriously.

Glad for any advice!

21st Feb 2025 8:28am

supershuttle

Member Since: 20 Mar 2011
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 3871

2013 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Luxor

One thing I have learned from this very useful forum is not to get fixated on one issue. If the long drive doesn't clear things - which it should if it's the DPF, have a search for the Turbo Drain Mod as it seems it can produce similar symptoms. I also have a 2013 and just stopped doing the short journeys and the DPF issues just went away (well in fairness I only had one warning). Anyway got to go - long journey coming up time to disconnect the CTEK Geoff

21st Feb 2025 8:52am

tomiRR

Member Since: 06 Jan 2025
Location: Europe
Posts: 14

Hope that this 2*650km will help, and driving conditions must be reconsiderd instead of spending more money...

21st Feb 2025 9:03am

Kot

Member Since: 10 Mar 2021
Location: broadland
Posts: 1273

The blue smoke is not the DPF start a new thread
Don’t believe the amount of successful/ unsuccessful regeneration counts just monitor exhaust temperatures and soot grams or % also distance between AR
Outside temperature doesnt effect AR starts or not. I have seen AR start in the 30-40mph zone and with low oil & coolant temps. Also speed under 30 there seems to be a timer maybe 5 mins? Where it stops AR stops you burning up the hay field 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

21st Feb 2025 1:44pm

Kot

Member Since: 10 Mar 2021
Location: broadland
Posts: 1273

@Gremlin
You have the same engine as Tommi can you share what profile you are using 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

21st Feb 2025 1:48pm

Gremlin500

Member Since: 11 Mar 2022
Location: Newcastle, UK
Posts: 1603

“Range Rover Range Rover 2013-2016 V8 4.4 Diesel”

That’ the only one that gave me the parameter:

“[ECM] DPF distance since last regeneration”

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“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

21st Feb 2025 3:23pm

Spridget

Member Since: 09 Dec 2023
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 168

Hi Tomi. I have the TDV6 engine MY 2015 and I use the Jaguar F Pace profile. It gives me all the info I need except regen status but I can tell when it's doing an active regen because exhaust sensor 2, bank 2 climbs to about 600 deg. After a few minutes the soot grams and percentage start to drop. The whole process takes about 10 to 12 minutes.
Hope this helps

21st Feb 2025 3:30pm

Gremlin500

Member Since: 11 Mar 2022
Location: Newcastle, UK
Posts: 1603

Hi Tomi, I copied my screen layout from Kot who has been a big help to me early on.
I find it’s nice to have the bare minimum info to get the job done, in a big font, colour-coded, and readable at-a-glance, especially when alone in the car on a dark motorway.

I’ve seen no reason to change it in 2 years, so I think Kot did a great job! “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

21st Feb 2025 3:39pm

tomiRR

Member Since: 06 Jan 2025
Location: Europe
Posts: 14

Dear Spridget,

Thank you for your advice!
As I red through this whole tread I also tried YOUR way of regen monitoring.
I don’t have soot percentage but have concentrate.
I will configure the F-pace dashboard for tomorrow’s big trip and follow the process(es) by exhaust temp.
Would you write the “dashboard-configuration”, you consider is the best and most informative?

Thank you in advance!

21st Feb 2025 3:40pm

Spridget

Member Since: 09 Dec 2023
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 168

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Hi again Tomi.
This is the dashboard that I use but my car is a single turbo ( mono turbo ) so maybe that's why I can't see some of the readings. It's well worth trying Gremlin's profile as well, as he gets things that I don't such as regen status.

Good luck.

21st Feb 2025 4:15pm

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