Looking for feedback from current/past owners.

Having sold my last l322 4.2 face-lift supercharged around 3 years ago now,(which was pretty much faultless)replaced with a 5.5 biturbo v8 mercedes Ml63amg,I'm getting very itchy with regards to getting back into a range rover,don't get me wrong, the ML has been a fantastic piece of kit for the last 3 years, never putting a foot wrong, being the amg performance model also(very rare),585 hp and nearly 600ftlb torque has kept me very happy.

However.....

It's still not a range rover.

Been perusing the net for the last 6 months now on the hunt for a possible replacement, budget £35k,possibly £40k for the right car.

My heart tells me the 5.0ltr petrol,it will be used as a second car/dog transporter/weekend luxury /holiday car,probably around 7-8k per year.

Would that sort of mileage ruin my experience of the 4.4 v8 diesel?

Many thanks.

Would that sort of mileage ruin my experience of the 4.4 v8 diesel?

No

More concerned with the short journeys it will mainly be used for throwing up problems with a diesel engine.

How many of you owners have had problems with dpf's and egr valves when used for just pottering about with the tdv8?

And by the same token the 5.0 ltr petrol?

Many thanks.

Ah - short journeys is different to your original post...... annual mileage is irrelevant.

Modern diesels generally don't like short, slow trips. So you need occasional longer faster ones. I don't know the exact ratio but I've only ever had the DPF light come one once & a decent thrash cleared it.

Petrol is clearly better for in town use, but the car is also likely to cost more in the first place....

Shortish trips at 8k mileage is similar to me. Each day, I’ll do about 4x 4 mile trips and a commute of around 20 miles each. ( plus occasional longer journeys etc ), and mine seems to moan for an oil change after about 5 months at this rate. Yes, this is a lot shorter than the typical 12 month change of other cars, but at least the car is calculating oil dilution and tells you. If you change it when it asks, then it goes back to being fine. Listening to the engine before and after the oil change, there is a difference in the sound of it post change, so it must have been needing it, so I do trust the cluster when its asking for the service.

It’s only ever said DPF full once, and a drive to get it warmed up, then a hard acceleration up to 60mph put it into regen mode cleared it without fuss.

Admittedly I change it myself, so save a lot doing it that way. In my previous 4.2 supercharged, I change the oil every 6 months anyway as well … so it’s not that much of a difference there either.

My personal thoughts are that if you change oil as needed, the next important thing is that a reasonable amount of your journeys get the engine upto full temp for a short while, as this prevents/ gets rid of condensation and also helps the oil.

But … i feel the 4.4 tdv8 is a lazy engine which is fantastic at cruising and feels hassled if you boot the arse out of it. To me its like:

Me: press pedal and ask accelerate please
RR: Sigh… OK … I’m coming … 1400rpm ok for you?

Me: Well, it’s a start, and we are going forward serenely thanks, but can I get a bit more? >press pedal more.
RR: Yeah yeah yeah, how about 2000rpm? My normal turbo is now working .. happy?

Me: I suppose so, but I’d really like to really get going though. > press pedal more
RR: Are you sure?

Me: Yes > press pedal more
RR: hold my beer …

at which point it spools up the big turbo, sits on its backend and launches away at ludicrous speed leaving you thinking I’m going to get a ticket.

Great engine, and I love it.


Whereas the 5.0 will be a more immediate response and eagerness ( at the cost of economy ) V8 or else ...

Had my SDV8 since Sept 2018 and in that time I’ve covered 36k miles. I don’t use the car daily and it can go weeks without use. Most journeys are long (2 hrs plus) and at motorway/fast A road speeds.

Car has been faultless; serviced annually and the indicator comes on 1 month before service is due each year. No issues with oil dilution or excessive consumption. I also only use Shell VPower diesel, but that’s a personal choice.

I'm not adverse to getting my fingers dirty re oil changes,I presume from the responses that these cars tell you when they want an oil change then as opposed to a yearly or mileage based change?

Yes , the miles to service due will drop. I think most of us on here will do an oil and filter change in between the yearly service. overfinch modified

Crispian22 wrote:

I'm not adverse to getting my fingers dirty re oil changes,I presume from the responses that these cars tell you when they want an oil change then as opposed to a yearly or mileage based change?

Only on the Adblue cars... The Adblue can dilute the engine oil if DPF fails to regen a number of times? Pre 16MY don't suffer this phenomenon sir...

Am I right in thinking it is the “Adblue” models that are Euro 6 specification? 2012 tdv8 Westminster arrived Jan 19 gone Dec 23

200 TDi discovery bobtail gone
RR classic v8 bobtail gone
300 tdi Discovery 3 dr gone

@V8 Bob:

Yes, that’s correct. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

Yes sir it is…

Our 4.4 AdBlue L405 has been spot on but we have suffered with the oil dilution, it’s been no big deal though we have it serviced by LR each year and then do a mini at home service 6 months later.

We’ve had it coming up to 4 years, and it’s been a joy! In fact I have replaced it, but can’t bring myself to part with it so it’s kinda just been sat on the drive except for a Airport run  Sold - Bell a 2015 MY16 Loire Blue Autobiography 4.4 SDV8
Previously George a 2007 MY07 Java Black VSE 3.6 TDV8
Previously a 04 MY04 Defender 90

My last 4.4 V8 Diesel covered 77,000 miles absolutely faultlessly - no issues with Adblue / oil dilution at all. Service indicator came on religiously at 12 months with the annual mileage ranging between 9k and 15k miles. No early oil changes were needed.

She was that good she was replaced with another. 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

Cam-Tech-Craig wrote:

Crispian22 wrote:

I'm not adverse to getting my fingers dirty re oil changes,I presume from the responses that these cars tell you when they want an oil change then as opposed to a yearly or mileage based change?

Only on the Adblue cars... The Adblue can dilute the engine oil if DPF fails to regen a number of times? Pre 16MY don't suffer this phenomenon sir...