bozmandb9 wrote:

It's a bit more than that! If you price up the extra's you get with the SE, they would probably cost a hell of a lot more if you added them on individually, I suspect the wheels would cost best part of £2845 as an upgrade (I'm assuming the 19's are standard?)

johnson1 wrote:

No not that hideous beast! I hope that the 2013 RR will look nothing like that!

Yes you will probably have MY11.5 like mine. Rotary selector has been around since MY11. Changes for MY12 are on another thread on here. Body coloured door handles etc that's all

Dealer just told me it will be 2012 model, so we shall see when it arrives..........just hope they haven't made anything look too tacky......Can't understand why they don't have the very latest versions available to see first hand.
They haven't gotten back to me yet with the actual spec of the changes though

I love the fact that the FFRR still looks like a RR if you know what I mean. My very first RR was an old 1971 model back when I was a mere 18 - I thought it was fantastic - the sound of the low compression petrol V8 was beautiful and pulled like a train. Mind you it didn't have power steering as that was an option in those early days!
Certainly helped to build muscles

Even now, although soooooo much more luxurious the new FFRR has those same lines, just smootheed out a bit. If they go and change it to something that looks like the one in that picture, it may take me a few years to get used to it

Have a look in the MY12 thread. It isn't a new model, it's just a revision, like 2011 was to 2010. The actual new model is due to go on sale at the end of next year, with cars arriving from March 2013. The Vogue SE specification hasn't changed AFAIK.

Anyone taking into account that a Vogue SE will command a higher residual and resale price than a Vogue with 5 Grand's worth of extras, most of which will be lost in the value when its time to sell.

I can see it now your friendly dealer saying "It's a Vogue" and the customer replying "but it has £5000 worth of extras"
And the dealer saying "It's still a Vogue......shame it's not a Vogue SE"

Andy. 2015 L405 SDV8 Autobiography, Indus Silver with Black Pack.
SWMBO: 22MY Defender 110 HSE X Dynamic, Gondwana Stone.
Gone: 2014 Discovery 4 HSE Luxury Firenze Red
Gone: 2006MY Java Black TD6 Autobiography
Gone: 2013 Jaguar XKR Convertible, Italian Racing Red with Ivory Seats
Gone: 2010MY Stornoway Grey TDV8 Vogue SE with RSE
Gone: 2008 Disco 3 HSE, Hybrid Tv + Retro-fit RSE System & DVD
Gone: 2003 Epsom Green 4.4i Vogue, LPG, Mk4 Nav, BMW Bluetooth Phone, Hybrid Tv Tuner,

Ajay(UK) wrote:

Anyone taking into account that a Vogue SE will command a higher residual and resale price than a Vogue with 5 Grand's worth of extras, most of which will be lost in the value when its time to sell.

I can see it now your friendly dealer saying "It's a Vogue" and the customer replying "but it has £5000 worth of extras"
And the dealer saying "It's still a Vogue......shame it's not a Vogue SE"

Andy.

Agreed ! Mind you same with all the bits you can put on the SE - I've added RSE, passenger memory, etc......the list goes on.....will I ever see that cost back - I doubt it, but I'll certainly enjoy all the toys

BUT then when the new looking 2013 model comes out, all of ours will be worthless

If you're adding Passenger Memory, can I suggest you consider Seat Pack 3? This gives you rear seat recline, AMAZING rear headrests, heated and cooled rear seats and lumbar support, along with Passenger Recline. Have this in my car and really recommend it for the £1600 it costs. Also, if budget allows, have a look at Vision Assist - the cameras are actually useful, the blind spot monitor great on motorway and High beam assist very accurate.

I wouldn't recommend the upgraded stereo - the regular one is good.

johnson1 wrote:

If you're adding Passenger Memory, can I suggest you consider Seat Pack 3? This gives you rear seat recline, AMAZING rear headrests, heated and cooled rear seats and lumbar support, along with Passenger Recline. Have this in my car and really recommend it for the £1600 it costs. Also, if budget allows, have a look at Vision Assist - the cameras are actually useful, the blind spot monitor great on motorway and High beam assist very accurate.

I wouldn't recommend the upgraded stereo - the regular one is good.

No not standard on the Autobiography. Only things standard on Autobiography over Vogue SE are Dual View Screen and Adaptive Headlights (which are very good). Seats don't recline particularly far - similar to Mercedes S Class, but the cooling and the lumbar, and those winged headrests do add to the comfort factor. I'm glad I went with the pack though. Demonstrators don't seem to have them and I never actually got to 'try' them before I got them on mine.

But as you say, you are now at £80k with your options which is coming very close to Autobiography territory. Autobiography gives you a very impressive interior with the leather door cards, pillars, leather console area and full leather headlining with vanity mirrors, and dual tone leather as a nco if you wish. The leather headlining on Microcat comes up as getting sold to the dealer at £3,300.

To me, and this is just my opinion, an Autobiography, whilst more expensive allows you to justify the price more than a Vogue SE - I did consider the VSE but the superior quality interior with the leather swayed it for me - the door casings and dash area on a VSE are all just leatherette which I feel does detract a little from the premium quality of the semi-analine.

Adaptive Dynamics is Standard on the Vogue in the UK so no worries there.

Hi, OK thanks for the info.

Need to think fast otherwise I might upset the production line !

No probs. 2012 doesn't go into production until the end of August so you have time.

johnson1 wrote:

the door casings and dash area on a VSE are all just leatherette which I feel does detract a little from the premium quality of the semi-analine.

johnson1 wrote:

No probs. 2012 doesn't go into production until the end of August so you have time.

I read somewhere that model year changeover is July and new build starts 22nd August. 1st September looking unlikely - it took mine over a week from factory to dealership alone + PDI.

johnson1 wrote:

I read somewhere that model year changeover is July and new build starts 22nd August. 1st September looking unlikely - it took mine over a week from factory to dealership alone + PDI.

I've been told probably almost October now