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Fatbear



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RR 4.4tdv8 2011 Engine oil

Has anyone on the forum used Smith and Allen Oils, they have a fantastic reputation
They sell the below specification oil and they are a the biggest independent U.K. manufacturer of oils and have been going for 80 years and 20 litres of their oil is £75.95 inc delivery

5W-30 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil ACEA C1 Low SAPS Ford WSS-M2C934-B 20 Litre 20L

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DrRob



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Lots have. If you use the "Search" function in the banner above it will show all posts relating to it Thumbs Up Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Fatbear



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Thank you 🙏 for your quick reply hopefully I’ll get used to the forum quickly, please can I ask you IYO what are good discs and pads to buy for my Rangy

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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

Contact Rob at Duckworths, he will do you a good deal on genuine parts and you can’t go wrong.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

OE disks are not too expensive if you shop around ( they are made by Brembo). OE pads are not such a good deal so take your pick from one of the major brands. Be aware that the rear callipers are prone to seizure of the piston in the bore so may need replacing and the front callipers are alloy which often results in the seizure of the pins and bleed nipples from galvanic corrosion which can turn a simple job into something very serious and expensive. Plenty of info on here and on youtube eg
 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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DrRob



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Fatbear wrote:
Thank you 🙏 for your quick reply hopefully I’ll get used to the forum quickly, please can I ask you IYO what are good discs and pads to buy for my Rangy

Not Meyle or was it Delphi?? Need to check. They warped and caused wheel wobble on braking. Now on Borg and Beck. Much better Bow down
I get 99% of my parts from site sponsor Advanced Factors with the forum code "AF4LRP" Thumbs Up
https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/brake-parts-51-c.asp
I got their front kit with pads and discs Thumbs Up
https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/kit234b-...4904-p.asp Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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DrRob



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

JayGee wrote:
Be aware that the rear callipers are prone to seizure of the piston in the bore so may need replacing


Just replaced my rear calipers as they looked very old, rusty and grotty.
https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/rear-bra...-175-c.asp
#preventative_maintenance is my mantra Thumbs Up Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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garyRR



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If you keep an eye on AutoDoc, the OEM TRW calipers are often on offer at c.£80 each. I too have replaced both my rear calipers by way of precaution. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

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SpitfireS



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Germany 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Santorini Black

On the website of Smith and Allan one can download the SDS of the Momentum C1 F 5W-30.
This document shows (Section 3: Composition) it's a blend of synthetic and highly refined mineral oils where the percentage of the mineral oil is between 10-25%.

Mineral oils are used in full synthetics to dissolve additives but, AFAIK, never above 3% or so.
Highly refined mineral oils could be hydrocracked mineral oils and they are claimed to be synthetic but by definition they are not.

To call the Momentum C1 a full synthetic is, imo, a bit overstated.
Doesn't mean it's bad oil. 2012 4.4TDV8
2000 Honda S2000

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JayGee



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Hardly any oils are fully synthetic and the ones that are are obvious from the price. For a diesel application you want good soot holding capacity and these low revving engines don't require the kind of high load /high rpm / high temp protection that fully synthetics's offer. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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SpitfireS



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The oil pressure in a crank / connecting rod journal is produced by rotating.
As the TDV8 produces high torque at low rpm the oil film has to deal with this (=keeping parts apart) at low rpm so oil film strength is a factor.
To think a low revving V8 doesn't need good oil is a mistake, imo.
Smith And Allan don't specify the HTHS (High Temp High Shear) of their oil, unfortunately.
The other numbers are normal.

It's Smith and Allan that call their C1 oil fully synthetic on their website and it's not just imo that it's not: they say (admit?) so in their SDS. 2012 4.4TDV8
2000 Honda S2000

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telly-addict



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Scotland 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

DrRob wrote:

https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/rear-bra...-175-c.asp
#preventative_maintenance is my mantra Thumbs Up


Very expensive caliper prices there I'd say. Cam

2011 TDV8 Vogue in Stornoway Grey

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Ajmngn



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Westway Oils - made in the UK, been going for years, great prices and free next day delivery. Check them out…

https://www.westwayoils.co.uk/collections/...0702420108 Andy

2010 4.4TDV8 Vogue SE in Santorini Black with Ivory interior
2017 Audi SQ5 3.0 V6T Quattro in Volcano Red
2001 Audi Allroad 2.5 TDI manual with low-range in Highland Green. Currently SORN whilst undergoing some serious restoration!

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Ajmngn



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They also do oils for transfer box, diff, ZF6 and ZF8 gearboxes, brake and power steering fluid. Not sure if I’ve missed any but it’s all there on the website, all within specs. 👍 Andy

2010 4.4TDV8 Vogue SE in Santorini Black with Ivory interior
2017 Audi SQ5 3.0 V6T Quattro in Volcano Red
2001 Audi Allroad 2.5 TDI manual with low-range in Highland Green. Currently SORN whilst undergoing some serious restoration!

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DrRob



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telly-addict wrote:
DrRob wrote:

https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/rear-bra...-175-c.asp
#preventative_maintenance is my mantra Thumbs Up


Very expensive caliper prices there I'd say.


Offset by their customer service for me. I had some brake discs warp and they swapped them out for new ones (different brand) after 12 months. No quibbles. Not many places would do that. Plus we get a bit of discount and the calipers are TRW which are OEM Thumbs Up Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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