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Reggie



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MORE Air strut advice please...!

Regarding Reggie the Range Rover... 2007, 3.6tdv8, Vogue SE, 60,000 miles.

One of the front suspension airbags has sprung a leak. I plan to get a new complete strut as my mechanic-friend has limited time.

My question is about whether or not it is good practice to replace both front assemblies??

I have been reading as much on here and elsewhere about the whole set-up and most seem to talk about just replacing the one that leaks but I'm used to always replacing the pair when it comes to normal shox and/or springs.

All advice very gratefully received!!

Thank you.

Reggie


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Post #657959 27th Feb 2023 10:25am
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MarianaWestminster



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I would definitely replace both Reggie.

I say this as otherwise you'd have a nice fresh shock on one side and the other side will have x amount of miles under its belt with different damping characteristics.

Also usually when one side springs a leak the other isn't far behind.

I would recommend avoiding Dunlop brand shocks. I fitted a pair to my 09 L322 and they knocked right out of the box. (Has been documented on here before)

I put BWI on the last 322 and no problems Thumbs Up

Post #657961 27th Feb 2023 10:48am
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Danb_220_2019



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In an ideal world, you'd replace both. In the real world, when it comes to the springing it's much less critical with air springs than coils as they're not as susceptible to sagging over time - and the self-levelling system will ensure the car still sits at the correct height on both sides.

Where it gets complicated is the shock absorbers - they're very difficult to test properly without specialist equipment (beyond the usual 'is it leaking', 'does it still offer resistance', 'does it self-extend' tests); and if one is worn, they're both going to be worn, so a new unit on one side can create interesting behaviours.

As usual with these things, it comes down to a trade-off between the factors of cost, speed, and what is best practice.

Most people will go with the cheapest option of changing a single unit (even with springs I see that a lot). Personally, I'd do both - doing the work myself means I offset any garage costs. 2012 (L322) 4.4TDV8 Vogue SE, RSE, Fuji White over Arabica.
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Post #657962 27th Feb 2023 10:49am
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Reggie



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Thank you both!

I will go ahead and replace both sides to be safe.

(Keeping my fingers crossed that the rest of the system is OK too!)

Best wishes

R the RR Very Happy

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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100% always in pairs as they are your dampers as well as air springs sir... Thumbs Up

Post #657979 27th Feb 2023 3:24pm
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Reggie



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Thank you and, yes, will do Smile

I've ordered 'OEM' but it turns out they are the Dunlop ones. Now, my fingers are crossed that they don't send a noisy pair!

Thanks again

R the RR

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If they sent the Dunlop ones to me I’m afraid I’d be returning them and asking for a set of Denso ones as they are the brand JLR use… Heard nothing but problems with the Dunlops unfortunately sir… Thumbs Up

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I got a pair of BWI strut & airbag assemblies from Duckworths, just shy of £300 each inc. delivery. I believe BWI were the OEM at the time - don't forget to order the gasket for the top mount.

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Reggie



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Thanks again...

I have been reading about the Dunlop struts and knocking noises etc but had a look at the ad for the struts I've ordered. It clearly says Dunlop so I'm stuck with them for now, my mistake! Embarassed

More on that once they've been on for a while Question

Thank you for the tip re gaskets, Phoenix, I have ordered them today Very Happy

Also, the struts on the car are original and the label says 'Delphi', if that's of use to anyone.

Best wishes to all

Reggie

Post #658104 28th Feb 2023 4:59pm
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Phoenix



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BWI bought the chassis division of Delphi some years ago, so they are effectively the same.

Post #658105 28th Feb 2023 5:16pm
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Reggie



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Sounds like if the Dunlops don't work out I should replace with BWI versions.

It was a stupid, potentially expensive mistake. Embarassed MarianaWestminster warned me about Dunlop and I didn't check properly, even though I noticed that Rimmer Bros do the Dunlop ones so didn't buy from them:(

They're being fitted on Thursday so we'll see how it goes from there Smile

One (tiny) good thing has come out of this so far...

The car has had mudflaps from new. Probably dealer-fitted as they were not fitted properly. I have removed one, expecting to see horrors beneath, and everything was as new. Now re-fitted properly and with stainless steel hardware Very Happy

Making me brave enough to have a look at the rear arches? Maybe...

R the RR

Post #658107 28th Feb 2023 5:39pm
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Phoenix



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I've just fitted BWI to the front of mine, airbags were 'OK' but the strut on one side was for a SC and the other side was 'tired' and a bit crashy/bangy. I also had to find a harmonic damper weight as the incorrect strut didn't have one, I replaced the rear dampers at the same time with Bilstein units, the difference is (as expected) immense, now I can feel the NSR bushes crashing around in the arms, so that's the next job. It wasn't the cheapest job but good value for money, once I've done the rear tie rods, that should be it for a few years!.

Post #658122 28th Feb 2023 7:22pm
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Reggie



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Hi all.

Struts again!

We have the first old one off and the top is different to the new one.

The originals have a metal collar and ally cap attached to the thread at the top. and the plastic cap over them is taller than in on-line help videos. There is no wiring involved.

I can't see anywhere on line struts that match my originals.

Do I go ahead with the new struts as they are and ignore the difference please?

Thank you as always


Reggie

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dingg1



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You can remove the cup and weight from the old strut and put them onto the new item, or you could just fit the new without the anti vibration damper, I doubt you would notice a lot of difference tbh.

I'd swap it over just to keep it as designed tbh.

Post #658250 2nd Mar 2023 11:46am
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dingg1



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To add, the damper weight can prove somewhat difficult to remove.

(and that's an understatement if ever there was one) Laughing

Good luck

Post #658251 2nd Mar 2023 11:52am
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