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| NDT Member Since: 03 Apr 2018 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 85   
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Think you mean JMC not me!
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10th Dec 2022 10:15am |
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| JMC Member Since: 01 Feb 2009 Location: Aberdeen-Angus Posts: 755  
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Just to prove that I have nothing against Michelin Cross Climates, here I had a set fitted to the rally quattro at the start of the Monte Carlo Rally Heritage Run in John o'Groats a few years ago. Car was absolutely fine on the road with them.
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10th Dec 2022 10:59am |
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Nice one JMC, it's great to see older competition cars being used like yours, instead of sitting in garages locked away 
| Sandyt Member Since: 07 Nov 2013 Location: Wraysbury Windsor Posts: 2257 
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I have the Cross Climates on my wife's Alfa and they are great had them on the Range rover and took them off after a few thousand miles have the Michelin pilot sport on for summer and the Goodyear Ultra Grip on as winters and they seem to do the job |
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10th Dec 2022 4:59pm |
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| CS Member Since: 14 Apr 2015 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1374 
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Mine has Goodyear Duratrac 255/55R20 as winter tyres. They are LR homologated as "professional off road" but only rated to 99mph. They are a bit noisier, use more fuel and on has to drive to reflect the poorer braking distances and different handling. But they have served me well in wintry conditions and in field and farm track use. They don't have 3 peaks snowflake though. Only Range Rovers since 1988 |
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11th Dec 2022 7:18pm |
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| NDT Member Since: 03 Apr 2018 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 85
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Yes, that's a fair point. In reality the FF probably isn't going to go off road so I'd be best getting some proper road winters rather than ATs. |
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19th Dec 2022 7:51pm |
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| NDT Member Since: 03 Apr 2018 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 85
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Any feedback after a bit of use in the snow and ice?! |
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19th Dec 2022 7:52pm |
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| cxdood Member Since: 05 Jul 2020 Location: USA Posts: 58  
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It sounds like you will drive on the road more often than off road. I would get a set of proper winter tyres. They will be better on ice and snow. Also winter tyre compound is soft in order to work well on ice and snow. Supposedly the 3 peak snowflake is not a guarantee that a tyre will be brilliant in the winter. Myself I have a set of all seasons that I use for summer and a set of winter tyres for winter. The two sets get swapped twice a year around spring and autumn. I live in the mountains and it can get very warm and very cold depending on the seasons. I want good performance all year on different road conditions including fast high way driving in many different conditions. The reason for the all seasons is that I don't want to get caught on a mountain pass in the late spring or early autumn in a late/early snow storm with summer tires that would be terrible in snow and in the cold in general. I also do occasional off roading. The all seasons were fine the times I was off road. I was never close to getting stuck. One time I was on a beach and saw a couple of other cars struggle to get back up from the beach. The Range Rover on the other hand did not break a sweat. It is very capable with the electronic systems, driving modes and diff and so on. I haven't been in deep mud, my tyres might struggle more compared to a mud tyre. Before getting off road tyres I would want to be in a situation first where I felt I was remotely close to getting stuck because of the current tyres I have. My thinking is that like you, I drive on the road the most. That's what my tyre choices are based on. If I did more off roading than road driving I might get a set of dedicated all terrain tyres. But they would be worse on the road. Also I expect worse on ice and snow in general even off road. I don't go off road enough for that to make sense for me personally and I haven't had any issues with my road tyres so far. Here is what I heard about winter tyres vs off road tyres: Winter tyres try to hold on to snow in sipes to get the snow in the tyres to make contact with the snow on the ground. Mud terrain tyres try to get rid of mud. They are opposites. There are other kinds of off road tyres than mud terrains and I don't know if they would be different, but the point is that all tyres have to make different compromises. My winter tyres gives me great confidence during winter, they work really well. What makes sense to me is to think about the conditions you are going to be driving in the most and figure out what compromises makes sense for you. L405 2016 - Supercharged V6 petrol 380hp |
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3rd Jan 2023 7:24am |
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| IGP Member Since: 09 Jul 2020 Location: Malvern Posts: 285 
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Unfortunately not had any snow or ice round here to try them out in yet. Will let you know if we get some. General view is that they are not any noisier than the Goodyear Eagles that were fitted and the ride does seem a bit softer but that may be just me. Ivan 2013 Vogue SE SDV8 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Luxury |
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3rd Jan 2023 8:44am |
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