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Jayk69



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black
4.4 tdv8 radiator top hose replacement

Anyone know of how too for this?
went to service mine a caught the little hose that feeds oil cooler and it snapped off.
the part of the hose that goes into the block looks a little tricky and cannot find a how too anyplace. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

Post #648037 14th Nov 2022 9:58am
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GraemeS



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Australia 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Bournville

When the wire clip is lifted the hose fitting can then be pulled off the spout.

Post #648041 14th Nov 2022 10:36am
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Jayk69



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

thanks for that i was hoping it would be that system. Otherwise, i have to strip a lot off to get some clamp pliers onto it. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

Post #648051 14th Nov 2022 1:42pm
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Jayk69



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

new parts are here i will try to do a hoe too for the top hose and the header tank. Mine is black from oil getting into the coolant via the oil cooler gasket which i changed ages ago. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

Post #648232 16th Nov 2022 12:43pm
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blackpool



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black

Hi Jayk ... I had the same problem with the thin brittle breather hose snapping, necessitating ordering a new 4 way hose assembly and (like you) thought the top hose would be tricky so I just disconnected it from the other end (at the four way connector) using hose pliers (and did the same on the new part) resulting in only 3 new hoses being installed. The issue was the thin breather after all not the large top hose (and you will still have that as a spare).

I also noticed the top hose on the new assembly had a different connector to the block so that was another reason for leaving the pre-existing hose in place (I did not want to dismantle everything to remove it and then discover a connection issue)

Post #648240 16th Nov 2022 1:57pm
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GraemeS



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Australia 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Bournville

The o-ring in the hose fitting where it connects to the thermostat housing on mine was weaping as the fitting moves slightly when the engine moves within its mounts which wears the o-ring. Therefore best to fit the whole new hose assembly.

Post #648278 16th Nov 2022 8:03pm
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blackpool



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black

Each to his own. My top hose has precisely the same heavy duty spring clip fitted at the block as the ones fitted at the four way connector. So not a thin wire spring clip and no o-ring, just a direct water-tight connection. And therefore required heavy duty hose clamp plier access in that tight space. The new assembly (as mentioned) had a different connector (which was a thinly wired spring clip with an o-ring). So LR have clearly changed connector at some stage. Presumably to make removal easier (when the breather snaps) but sacrificing water tightness by using a much weaker connection (the same type fitted on the plenum valve body) that moves with engine vibration and therefore has a propensity to leak (or in this case weep from the block). Glad I left the old (water tight) type on.

Post #648304 17th Nov 2022 3:50am
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GraemeS



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I see that Microcat shows the original hose has been superseded and mine has the later hose. I therefore assume that the thermostat housing has also been superseded as mine has a smooth surface for the seal in the hard plastic housing which would be unsuitable for a clamped-on hose as there isn't a retaining lip.

I bought proper hose clamp pliers with swivel heads quite a few years ago after struggling to remove clamps down the side of the inlet manifolds on my then D4. The pliers make very quick work of the spring clamps. I understand why you might leave that hose in situ if you don't have such pliers even if you had the correct hose.

Post #648306 17th Nov 2022 5:35am
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Jayk69



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

Thanks everyone for your experiences i have not had a chance to look properly where the big hose joins the block. I did think it was clamped in place so was surprised the new hose ass has the clip type.
if needed i will leave the original in place as suggested but i need to get in first and check. I am guessing they changes it at some point to ease fitting as otherwise you have to strip a lot to get the old part off.

I will keep everyone posted my car is a late 2012 L322 so we will see how it goes. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

Post #648314 17th Nov 2022 8:38am
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GraemeS



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Australia 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Bournville

The current part number LR029140 with the clip is unchanged from its introduction at VIN BA340710.

Post #648324 17th Nov 2022 9:07am
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GraemeS



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blackpool wrote:
My top hose has precisely the same heavy duty spring clip fitted at the block as the ones fitted at the four way connector.

Mine's hose has a band around it attaching it to the plastic housing that slides onto the water outlet housing. The part number for the water outlet housing was unchanged during the L322 production and the top hose was superseded twice (not once) during production, indicating that all versions of the hose has the clip-on fitting in the end. Hence I suspect that your spring clip around the hose has since been replaced with a band but that your hose still connects to a housing that fits to the outlet housing the same as the later hoses. If you were to look further in you should see the wire clip holding the fitting that's in the end of the hose to the water outlet. The clip can be lifted with a screw-driver to its unclipped position, allowing the plastic fitting to be withrawn.
BTW, I replaced my temporary nitrile 45mm x 3.5mm o-ring with a Viton75 one today.

Post #648325 17th Nov 2022 9:18am
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Jayk69



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

what a mare another plastic part broke today the push release hose that goes into the oil cooler tha male part just snapped off!! now hunting for the part number Censored 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

Post #648549 19th Nov 2022 3:56pm
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