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rvbush



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Front suspension stuck in access mode - 2011 L322 4.4 TdV8

It's going in next week to be fixed, but I thought I'd consult the oracle to see what pearls of wisdom you might be able to impart as to what the problem is and we'll see who got it right!

Symptoms:
Front suspension (both sides) dropped to access height.
Rear suspension works as it should, raises and lowers.
Compressor cuts in and out as expected.
No hissing sounds from the front that I can detect.

My guesses:
Height sensor failed
Valve block fault

I'm not sure if I'm lucky or not, the car was used on Sunday last as a wedding car for my Daughter and was fine, I'd have been in right stuck had it failed then! Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue SE - Zermatt Silver
1998 BMW E36 M3 GTII

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mjdronfield



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No real suggestions I’m afraid, but the 4x4 info screen will show you what level the height sensors are telling the car.

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Haylands



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I'll play....

Either both front bags have failed at the same time (unlikely)

Or the common denominator between the two fronts is the valve block so I'll go for that....

Mind you, it's a fatty so it could be a fault with the sunroof etc.... Rolling with laughter Pete
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2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
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kevinp



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Have you tried the steering wheel full lock to full lock trick?

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rvbush



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Mind you, it's a fatty so it could be a fault with the sunroof etc.... Rolling with laughter


Ooh, never thought of that!!!

Quote:
Have you tried the steering wheel full lock to full lock trick?


Give me a few minutes.......

Nope, didn't work! Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue SE - Zermatt Silver
1998 BMW E36 M3 GTII

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If you jack up the front of the car do the lines on the centre screen move. Presume they are not in line with the rears at mo.

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rvbush



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No idea Kevin and to be honest I'm not going to go into that level of checking, I'm going to leave it to the local indy to sort out next week. But thanks for the suggestion, it may well help someone. I used to love sorting out all my own car problems and when there's no time pressures I still do, but the daily drivers all go to the garage now (except for really minor stuff like interim oil changes).

Edit: Just had a look at the 4x4 info screen and it shows the front lower than the rear, but not full articulation (I don't think it's dropped onto the bump stops, so that would be correct). Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue SE - Zermatt Silver
1998 BMW E36 M3 GTII

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rvbush



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Had nothing better to do earlier so I thought I'd have another play with the suspension. It was stuck in access mode and when I turned the ignition on I got the 'confirm suspension setting' notice on the dash. Pressed 'normal height' to see what would happen and up it came! Compressor cut out after a short while as it should so I chanced my luck and tried 'off road' height. It's now stuck in off road height with the 'suspension fault' message on the dash (there was no fault message before)! This is weird, but will have to wait to see when Indy can fit the car in to see what the issue is. Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue SE - Zermatt Silver
1998 BMW E36 M3 GTII

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mjdronfield



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If it won’t come down, it’s normally the exhaust filter on the compressor blocked, so it can’t let the air out.

If it’s booked in, just be aware you can clean the filter or drill a hole in it….

Should get it down from off road height.

Worth a try.

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic62461...ust+filter

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1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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rvbush



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Well, I thought the same, it’s worth a try. Took the filter off and tried it and all seemed ok, so tried drilling a hole in the end of the of the filter and all still seems to be working ok! Given how this started I would never have thought it could be this that was at fault! Anyway no faults showing on the dash and rise and fall all seem ok now.

Obviously being a cynic I expect it collapse the first time we go out in it, but we’ll see!

Thanks for the suggestion. Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue SE - Zermatt Silver
1998 BMW E36 M3 GTII

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mjdronfield



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No worries mate. I saved myself over £700 doing that a few years ago. No issues since.

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2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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Haylands



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See, told you it would be the sunroof... Rolling with laughter


Mark fixes another one.... Bow down Bow down Bow down Pete
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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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rvbush



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Laughing Laughing Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue SE - Zermatt Silver
1998 BMW E36 M3 GTII

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rvbush



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Well, the cynic in me was right! Went down as soon as I took it on the road. This time we have the system overheating message, so maybe it’s the compressor after all. I’ll let the garage find out! Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue SE - Zermatt Silver
1998 BMW E36 M3 GTII

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mjdronfield



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Think there is a service kit for them, new rubber rings and seals etc. See what the garage recommend.

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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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