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tinbasher



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what diagnostics is better, GAP, JLR or other

Hi guys,

i am in the market for some diagnostic kit and have been looking at the gap iid tool that everyone seems to rave about. but it is expensive. then after a shifty on flea bay i noticed JLR diagnostic kit a lot less expensive. does anyone have any info on the pros and cons of both these systems or is it a case of u get what you pay for.

regards, john the tin basher. Thumbs Up

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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

Just get the GAP. It will will more than pay for itself in saved time and trial and error parts swopping and the 2nd hand value is high so you won't loose much if you move on from JLR brand vehicles. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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dennij



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Hi John, I have the IID Tool, the SDD Software and a Hawkeye Total. The SDD is the hardest to use in that it's not easy to navigate the options and it does ask you to have an external 12v supply connected otherwise it won't run some of the tests. As it's a JLR diagnostic solution it is the most comprehensive but not the most convenient to use. The Hawkeye Total can do everything that the IID tool can do apart from CCF files. The IID tool is by far the easiest to use out of these 3 as it is easy to navigate and being Bluetooth means no cables. It is by no means perfect but has a good support service which goes someway to justifying the cost.

If I were in the market to buy just now I would be looking at either the IID Tool, the iCarsoft V2 or possibly the Carly depending on what it is I wanted the diagnostic tool to do. 2011 TDV8 Vogue SE

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JayGee



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Also more people on here have the GAP tool than any other so more help available with diagnosing fault codes and using the various features. GAP themselves are also very good a responding to questions. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Highroller



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Like you I did all the research, looking at the different types, cost etc, etc. But in the end went for the GAP IID & Not looked back since Thumbs Up

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Superspoons



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England 2006 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zambezi Silver

As others are saying, GAP IDD tool. Ive used it on my L322's and it will read codes on my Freelander2. Expensive but worth it. Gavin

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JayGee



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I'd consider not owning one far more expensive 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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RiverBlanche



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Re: what diagnostics is better, GAP, JLR or other

tinbasher wrote:
Hi guys, i am in the market for some diagnostic kit,

but it is expensive. Thumbs Up


Hi,

I Dont think it is Expensive Shocked I think its Good Value Laughing

If you want to buy one new £440ish I went for a previously owned IId, a fair price is £300, if you Need one now you might pay £350 then add £25 for New Owner change over, all of which is done very smoothly by GAP. (your getting near buying new mind Whistle )

There Good Value if you bought at £300 you are always going to sell it at £300 so its going to actually cost you £25 Thumbs Up

I have programmed a spare key (only came with 1 key) so thats cost £14, so starting to win already, I have also last week had the aircon charged and monitoring the system pressure (car off) to make sure its holding pressure ok, it is, winning a bit more next doors FL2 rear PDC acting up plugged in my IId and 1 sensor giving odd readings replaced and all good that got my a beer another win Laughing and its still worth £300 if I want to sell it

There good value, (at £300) straight forward to use and have good back up.

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Lad



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IID tool fits in your pocket easier than the others mentioned. Thumbs Up

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p38arover



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I have Land Rover’s T4, Gap IID (old non-Bluetooth), and BBS’ Faultmate. Faultmate is my preferred diagnostic tool especially for detailed access to the electronic modules but the IID is always in the car if needed, especially as I don’t need to set up a PC to use it. I also have access to Autologic if I am at my local independent. Ron B. VK2OTC
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Post #637366 19th Jul 2022 11:18pm
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Mikey



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Define "better"

SDD will do fault code reading, calibrations, minkr CCF editing, and software updates, all in 1 box. But its far from user friendly, or quick. Not to mention expensive, if you want to use an up to date version (last offline version is circa 2015)

IID is quicker, easier, will allow full CCF editing, and the support from GAP is second to none. I have used programming in the past, but not for a while, so can't comment on the process

I also have an Autologic, which again, is quicker and easier to use than SDD, but from what I have read, the software they provide is not always 100% up to date

To sum up, for a quick code read or CCF editing or live data, I use the IID

For something more in depth, Autologic gets used

For anything software related, SDD gets used

Not 1 tool will do everything the others do, so whatever you choose will be a compromise

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Sandyt



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I have the Gap it is in the car and have used it for many things over the years including resetting the suspension and clearing a fault and also reprogramming a key both were when we were over 1000 miles from home - worth every penny Thumbs Up

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