Advertise on fullfatrr.com »

Home > Technical (L322) > L322 TD6 A few engine problems
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 1 of 1
Print this entire topic · 
Snowy90 L322



Member Since: 24 Aug 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 220

United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover HSE Td6 Giverny Green
L322 TD6 A few engine problems

OK not quite sure where to start but after nearly 15 years of ownership it looks like the old girl is finally getting tired and worn out. Its developed a few issues which may or may not be related.

Stats.
as mentioned its a TD6 54 plate
159,000 miles
Has the oil filter breather mod
Frequent oil and filter changes.
Totally standard, no remaps, original hoses never been messed with or needed any work other than servicing.

Symptoms in order of when they started.

1) We started to get a leak, wet and dripping from subframe but looks to be coming from higher up ie drips on the AC compressor and intercooler hoses. fluid looks and feels like ATF fluid. My first though was a power steering leak but we are not losing steering fluid I would say its a persistent drip rather than a split hose gush. Having stripped stuff out of the way to take a look it appears the underside of the EGR cooler is wet? We are losing coolant every now and again we have to top it up, i would say every 2-3 weeks, doesn't overheat gauge stays in the middle albeit i have noticed it seems to take a while to heat up although i may be imagining this.

2) Loss of power, doesn't go into limp mode or anything like that but seems very sluggish sometimes, floor it and it picks up but normal driving it feels like there is no guts.

3) Hi pitch screech/wine doesn't sound like normal fanbelt sound etc.. only happens above 2000 RPM seems to be only when driving i cant seem to replicate when on the drive in neutral and looking in the engine bay. also when the engine is switched off i get a sort of screech/grinding for a split second. My initial thought was Turbo but given issue 1 i am also thinking water pump?

Having read the codes with IID it has many but when cleared these are the persistant ones.


Click image to enlarge



Its always had the glow plug one so i have always ignored this.


So I am looking to the forum for suggestions advice.

If it is the EGR leaking, i would rather do a EGR delete and hopefully blank off the cooler rather than the expense of replacing the cooler? But i am open to suggestions.

I have looked at the hoses but cant see anything obvious ie no disconnected hoses or noticeable splits but i appreciate its tricky when not under pressure.

Any pointers or similar experiences would be gratefully received.

We are at the point where if this is serious we may have to chop her in and i really don't want to do that.

All the best

Chris

Post #636907 15th Jul 2022 9:45am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Snowy90 L322



Member Since: 24 Aug 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 220

United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover HSE Td6 Giverny Green

So i took the Range Rover out as i realised that we didnt have enough Beer to get us through the next few days to survive what used to be called Summer!

I tried to video and capture some of the noises.

Start- at idle at traffic lights
Middle noise when reves go over 2000rpm
Screech when switching off engine, sounds louder than it is generally as was in a covered car park?

Post #636934 15th Jul 2022 2:57pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Snowy90 L322



Member Since: 24 Aug 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 220

United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover HSE Td6 Giverny Green

Anybody??? Im starting to worry now!

Post #637087 17th Jul 2022 1:31pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
nicedayforit



Member Since: 11 Jun 2011
Location: Beside the Solway
Posts: 3972

England 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Giverny Green

I would be inclined to remove the engine fan and see if you can find and sort out the leak.
The power drop l have no idea about but have to wonder if your fuel pump is a bit suspect. The fuel pump underneath on the passenger side.
The noise l have never heard on my own Td6 but would suspect either water pump of belt tensioner. I’d check the belt tensioner first, easier and cheaper.
If you do remove the fan don’t bother putting it back until you have definitely sorted the problems if ever, you don’t really need it.
Just an addition, if you are going to remove the egr heat exchanger, albeit temporarily, l would be inclined to change the engine thermostat while you are there. Easy job.

Post #637113 17th Jul 2022 4:52pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Snowy90 L322



Member Since: 24 Aug 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 220

United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover HSE Td6 Giverny Green

Thanks, yes sounds like a plan.

Can the IID tool look at the fuel pump? I am feeling like i need to try and divide and conquer the issues my gut feel are that they are not related and just unlucky that i have a few seperate issues.

Ill start with trying to get to the bottom of the leak.

.

Post #637187 18th Jul 2022 7:59am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
nicedayforit



Member Since: 11 Jun 2011
Location: Beside the Solway
Posts: 3972

England 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Giverny Green

Don’t know about the IID tool, haven’t got one.
To be honest if the pump is original and has done 159k l would replace it anyway.
Another thought about the engine noise, have a look at the condition of the crankshaft pulley, it incorporates a rubber vibration damper which may have deteriorated allowing the metal pulley to scrape the engine casting.

Post #637189 18th Jul 2022 8:15am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Snowy90 L322



Member Since: 24 Aug 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 220

United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover HSE Td6 Giverny Green

I think i need to start clearing the front of the engine!

only replaced the alternator last year so should be fairly fresh in my mind, i still remember the scrapped knuckles.

Good call on the noise when i can see it ill take a look.

Much appreciated when the weather cools a bit ill get to look at it.

Post #637191 18th Jul 2022 8:32am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Snowy90 L322



Member Since: 24 Aug 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 220

United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover HSE Td6 Giverny Green

So havent had time to strip down the front of the engine yet plus was a tad hot!

However replaced a very small tube on the Turbo Vacuum solenoid and reread the codes, i haven't taken it for a drive yet but they seemed to disappear!

I did read the fuel stats for each cylinder and it comes up with the following.


Click image to enlarge


this is at idle i have read that this maybe a common reading? or do i have an issue with cylinders 1 and 2

Also do the fuel pressure readings look normal.

Anything else i should be reading?

Thanks

Post #637431 20th Jul 2022 4:40pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Post Reply
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
fullfatrr.com RSS Feed - All Forums


Switch to Mobile site