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Pat



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Secondary turbo shut off valve

Hi I have been told I need a new Turbine shutoff valve (Turbo shut off valve) on my secondary turbo on my 2013 L405 4.4 SDV8. My garage and LR Dealer both say they are on back order (Since February 22).Has anyone ever heard of this and better still has anyone ever done this job. Tricks and tips would be greatly appreciated .

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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

My L322 4.4 tdV8 CSOV was replaced under warranty.
It’s any easy job, 1 hour max.
Service bulletin giving full details in Wiki.
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Pat



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Hi Thanks for your reply. Its not the CSOV that the fault I have already had that out and tested. This valve is bolted to the back of the passenger side turbo

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Hi I will try and attach photo

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Just out of curiosity what are the symptoms / error? Given it’s on back order might mean it’s fairly common. Sold - Bell a 2015 MY16 Loire Blue Autobiography 4.4 SDV8
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knwatkins



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It's item 5 in the below image. Part number is LR027196.



No idea on how difficult it is to replace though sorry. Kev

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That part number is superseded by

LR066428

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TJH1985 wrote:
Just out of curiosity what are the symptoms / error? Given it’s on back order might mean it’s fairly common.


Also interested to know what the symptoms are …..

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Pat



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Hi thanks for getting back to me. My symptoms were a restricted performance warning every time i took car above 2800RPM. This is when secondary turbo should kick in but as the valve is faulty it was triggering a fault resulting in restricted performance mode. This was confirmed by a reputable independent LR specialist. The first garage I went to wanted £8100 to replace both turbos needless to say I wanted a second opinion and they told me after much investigation it was the "Turbine Valve" on the secondary turbo. This was confirmed in March 22 and as of today I am still waiting for them to get in touch when they receive the new valve. I contacted LR myself re the valve and they said I could order (and pay) for one but could not give me a delivery date.

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Not sure if the engine operation changed that much between the L322 and L405 from 2012 model to 2013

In the L322 4.4 tdv8, the 2nd turbo comes on at 2400 rpm

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It is 2400 rpm on the L405 SDV8 also. Kev

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Pat



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So latest update on my turbo issue. Having been told I would have to wait forever on the part I need I decided to try for a used one from an online breakers. Got reply from a well known one via a phone call. Basically telling me that this part would not solve my issue. They guy said I had carbon build up on the veins on my VVT and only solution was to remove the turbo and have it completely refurbed (cost between £295 and £495). I suggested to him that it was only the primary turbo (Drivers side on RHD) that was a VVT and the secondary was a "normal" turbo. He then said if one was VVT then both would be. I am now completely confused.
1: Is primary turbo on drivers side
2: Is that only turbo that is a VVT
Any help on info would be much appreciated

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You are correct. Only the primary is a VGT (variable geometry turbocharger) and this is the offside one. Secondary is fixed vane type and this is the nearside one. Kev

2014 L405 RR Vogue SE 4.4 SDV8 in Corris Grey
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To visually clarify...

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 Kev

2014 L405 RR Vogue SE 4.4 SDV8 in Corris Grey
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