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Furnitureman



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Auxiliary belt snapped again help please (Fixed I hope)

After my fan belt took out both belts the other week I changed both belts all idlers and the tensioner ran car watching belts for ten mins all was good I’ve been out several times then this morning whilst driving the steering went stiff and the lights all came on any one got any ideas I checked everything ran smoothly I need to sort this belts etc we’re from AF 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner


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Post #632083 18th May 2022 8:08am
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kevinp



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I've just done 'ALL' my pulleys and water pump and alternator with genuine ones only.
I had a pattern tensioner sent by mistake so they told me to keep it and they sent me a genuine one.
The quality was like night and day when I compared them side by side.
Which did you buy?

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Tdtj



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Re: Auxiliary belt snapped again help please

After your write up as you’re aware I also did mine. My parts were from af too. Hope mine don’t end up like toast as soon as this. I use my car a lot. I won’t be impressed. I’m not pleased reading this post so soon. Sorry to hear this mate as well we all know ,it’s not the easiest of jobs 2016 4.4 diesel

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oggy



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i think i stated be for you need to use genuine for pulleys etc and gen belts or gates belts and check and check again that the belt is in the pulley grooves and running in the same place as the last one you took off new vehicle purchase
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Post #632117 18th May 2022 12:49pm
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Furnitureman



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I’ve always used AF And had no issues but I think it’s the top grooved pulley as it isn’t solid but wobbles 😡



Not a happy bunny at all I’m sure all should be solid 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

Post #632120 18th May 2022 1:03pm
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kevinp



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Did you just change that pulley?
I got the whole unit, called 'bracket' LR022810 because it has the fan mounting bearing included as well.
Not cheap though, mine was £165 + vat.

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Just the pulley mate as that’s what I got delivered but it doesn’t fit very well at all unfortunately I’ve just ordered full replacements from LR direct 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

Post #632126 18th May 2022 1:33pm
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kevinp wrote:
Did you just change that pulley?
I got the whole unit, called 'bracket' LR022810 because it has the fan mounting bearing included as well.
Not cheap though, mine was £165 + vat.


Just ordered one of those as well, I’ve emails AF saying I’m not happy with the parts as one lasted such a short distance / time Iv asked to return them all for a refund I’ll await there response 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
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Tdtj



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How many miles had you covered before it happened
Just so I can keep an eye on mine too
Will be checking the pulley when I get home 2016 4.4 diesel

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50 max 😡 I’m taking it into my landrover parts dep tomorrow to see how it matches up against there’s for fit I’ve told Pete at AF that I at the least what a full refund for this part and both belts and I’ll be binning the rest as I’ve lost confidence in the parts, it’s a costly learning curve but that’s life 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
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It’s been nowhere then. I think I’m about on 50ish now,so probably check when I’m back in the yard.
Not only a costly experience but also very time consuming. If it happens to mine I will replace again,then it will be farewell to the fatty 2016 4.4 diesel

Post #632146 18th May 2022 5:36pm
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If it happens to you and I hope it doesn’t it’s not the car that’s at fault but the item that failed surely 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

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The tensioner would be the prime suspect as its pulley isn't ribbed which allows the belt to slip off and being pivoted will run the belt off if the pivot is at all loose. The belt is very unlikely to run off a ribbed pulley because of the ribs themselves and that those pulleys have raised edges.

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sorry to hear what's happened fingers crossed you get your money back

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GraemeS wrote:
The tensioner would be the prime suspect as its pulley isn't ribbed which allows the belt to slip off and being pivoted will run the belt off if the pivot is at all loose. The belt is very unlikely to run off a ribbed pulley because of the ribs themselves and that those pulleys have raised edges.


This is true but the ribbed pulley in the picture has almost 2mm side to side wobble this in my opinion has thrown the belt off centre and the rest is history 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

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