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AJGalaxy2012 Member Since: 11 Jun 2018 Location: Gainsborough Posts: 1464 |
Check with mirrors or tapping the outside of the DPF, easy to tell if it's been tampered with. BMW i3 Electric Car
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21st Sep 2021 5:24pm |
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Faukstad Member Since: 27 Dec 2021 Location: Oppland Posts: 63 |
As Kokamagi explained, we're a bit more fortunate with MoT (EU-regulations) inspections in Scandinavia (and Estonia it seems).
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27th Dec 2021 10:55am |
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kokamagi Member Since: 31 May 2020 Location: Viljandi Posts: 84 |
Faukstad, my point exactly. |
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27th Dec 2021 11:18am |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3200 |
What are the real practical problems on a TDV8 4.4 ( not 3.6) that DPF and EGR removal is solving? Many reports of engine or component failure or loss of performance or economy? OK it sounds nice to have a clean intake but it's also nice not to be throwing particulates and NOX into the air that other have to breathe. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322) |
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27th Dec 2021 12:04pm |
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Faukstad Member Since: 27 Dec 2021 Location: Oppland Posts: 63 |
A healthier engine..
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27th Dec 2021 12:32pm |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3200 |
In what way's is the engine 'healthier' ?- what specific problems are found on the 4.4 with regards to intake soot that restrict performance, shorten engine life, reduce economy, cause component failure etc? These engines have been around for well over 10 years now and are still used in the current SDV8 in the L405 and I'm not aware of any major issues myself.
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27th Dec 2021 12:42pm |
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Faukstad Member Since: 27 Dec 2021 Location: Oppland Posts: 63 |
The "problems" with running EGR and DPFs aren't specific to the 4.4.
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27th Dec 2021 1:36pm |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3200 |
This thread is specifically about the TDV8 4.4 and not other engines such as the 3.6 which have 'legendary' EGR valve issues.
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27th Dec 2021 1:55pm |
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Faukstad Member Since: 27 Dec 2021 Location: Oppland Posts: 63 |
It seems you have misunderstood.
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27th Dec 2021 8:25pm |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3200 |
As an automotive engineer you wil be more qualified than anyone to advise the OP on how to go about this - any suggestions to share beyond it should be ‘done properly’
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27th Dec 2021 9:31pm |
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telly-addict Member Since: 22 Mar 2019 Location: Morayshire Posts: 138 |
To backup Faukstad I am also an Engineer (not specifically engines) and automotive mechanic of fairly considerable experience (3 decades). The question you posed him is impossible to answer, such as 'How long is a piece of string?'.
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28th Feb 2022 4:14pm |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3200 |
After 5000hrs of life or x miles or whatever - if both engines are still performing within spec why would you pay more for one than than other? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322) |
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28th Feb 2022 4:17pm |
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AJGalaxy2012 Member Since: 11 Jun 2018 Location: Gainsborough Posts: 1464 |
You would pay more for the one that had done less work surely? The additional work that one has done would lead to additional wear on the bores, pistons, main and big end bearings as well as potentially turbo, fuel pumps and injectors. BMW i3 Electric Car
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28th Feb 2022 4:26pm |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3200 |
Why pay more for something that will do the same job? From an engineering perspective and engine with less wear will obviously last longer but what use is an engine that lasts say 300k miles over one that lasts 200k miles to the average buyer? Talking specifically about the TDV8 4.4 we are seeing mileages well beyond 200k miles (with egr and DPF) by which time the value of the car is dictated by other factors. Low mileage cars are not more expensive soley due to engine life. Engines are probably the longest lived mechanical part of any car these days often outlasting the other parts. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322) |
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28th Feb 2022 4:43pm |
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