Hello,

Does anyone know the difference between a pre 2006 and the later Westfalia tow bar armature frame? I think I remember reading somewhere that they are different at the front end but could be modified.
Needing one for a 2011 322 but looks to be more chance of getting an earlier one.

Cheers 2011 Disco 4
2011 TDV8 FFRR
4.6 P38 Autobiography x2
300Tdi county 110
Too many late Classic RR to count
Bowler Tomcat

I think you could find it`s something to do with the exhaust hangers?

Yep exactly that... Exhaust hangers moved on later models sir

I’ve been looking as well - do we know which year the hangers changed? 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

Thanks chaps, that’s good so it’s not a structural change.

I believe the part number changed at 2006.

Cheers. 2011 Disco 4
2011 TDV8 FFRR
4.6 P38 Autobiography x2
300Tdi county 110
Too many late Classic RR to count
Bowler Tomcat

You can fit an earlier version easily by grinding off the exhaust hanger from the strengtheners and simply bolting on with the bar and car itself -- the old hangers you can leave on, they don't get in the way. Current: 2011 FFRR Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8
Previous: -
2004 FFRR Vogue 4.4 V8 with LPG
1997 P38 4.0 SE with LPG
1997 P38 4.6 Vogue with LPG

coopss wrote:

I’ve been looking as well - do we know which year the hangers changed?

Cam-Tech-Craig wrote:

Yep exactly that... Exhaust hangers moved on later models sir

Can-Tech-Craig - I have sent you a PM re something else  "UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.

So am I right in understanding that you can grind off this red line section so that the exhaust hanger mount can be used on pre-2007 RR?

I've got the pre-2007 armature that I am mounting on my 2011 RR and trying to work around the exhaust hanger differences. Thanks

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Hi David,

Almost -- that bracket goes all the way under the rest of the strengthener -- you need the entire bit of angle, including the hole to bolt through with the old type bar set.

Turn that over and you'll see the full piece of angle, like this:-

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Fab, thanks Bushy30. Going to give it a go tonight 🤞 Current: Range Rover L322 4.4tdv8, Porsche 911 (996) Carrera 2, BMW 535d Touring, Skoda Fabia, BMW S1000XR