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kevinp



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black
Genuine parts v pattern.




I ordered a genuine belt tensioner for my 2011 4.4 TDV8 and was sent a pattern part. I contacted the company I ordered it from and they have sent me a genuine one and told me to keep the pattern one as a spare. There was a £35 difference in the cost of the part.
The pattern one looked decent and the pulley rotated very freely but I could rock it on it's bearing.
The genuine one looks better made and the pulley rotates more firmly/solid if you know what I mean.
Pattern is on the left and genuine on the right.
I just think it shows that it's worth buying genuine parts especially when it's a big job to fit them.

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Bean19844



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Bonatti Grey

Tbh mate if your buying pattern parts for a range rover you probably shouldn't own one in the first place. I'm not saying everything has too be genuine but certain things really shouldn't be replaced with pattern crap

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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England 2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Here here... Bow down Thumbs Up

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kevinp



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black

That's why I wanted a genuine one. I bought a pattern lower tailgate strut once. It was worse than the original!!!

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Jayk69



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

if i go non genuine i tend to stick to OE spec parts. some pattern parts are a joke 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

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umitbat



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A Trap 2010 Range Rover HSE TDV8 Atacama Sand

No name parts are crap.
Branded(known) ones are mostly ok. 2010 3.6tdv8 180k km.
sold 06 td6 160k
Sold 03 td6 260k

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dexion7



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2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Alaska White

even pattern part suspension bolts are poorer quality. They look the same before they're fitted but generally rust has formed on them within a couple of months.

I'm no expert on these matters but imagine that genuine bolts would have been plated to higher standard. 2010 VSE [Roger]

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dexion7



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2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Alaska White

Cam-Tech-Craig wrote:
Here here... Bow down Thumbs Up


its actually "hear hear" Craig,

your response seemed non-genuine Laughing 2010 VSE [Roger]

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coopss



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I’ve recently gone full OEM on a few parts

Question I was going to ask here - who is the oem manufacturer for the 2010-12 struts? 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

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knwatkins



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United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Corris Grey

They were manufactured by Delphi, more specifically, the Chassis Division of Delphi. BWI subsequently acquired that division so BWI are now the OEM. Kev

2014 L405 RR Vogue SE 4.4 SDV8 in Corris Grey
2010 L320 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6 in Stornoway Grey

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PaulM



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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 V8 Java Black

I’ve only ever used genuine parts. Question I have, is what’s really the difference between genuine & OEM? Is the OEM the same as genuine just without the Land Rover packaging? 2004 RR 4.4 V8 Autobiography

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Pawl



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England 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Cairns Blue

OEM used to mean Original Equipment Manufacturer & meant the original supplier of the part in question.
Unfortunately, the use has now been bastar*1sed and now gets used to mean manufacture by any manufacturer that has supplied any part to Land Rover wherever used & possibly not including the part under discussion.
Ie it's now meaningless.
An OE supplier of wiper blades can be said to be OEM for suspension bushes - even though they never supplied them to Land Rover ( or potentially any other car maker) for use on the production line. Paul,
2001 Discovery 2 TD5, 211,000 miles & climbing
2006 FFRR TDV8 Vogue 145,000 miles & climbing
Member of Midland (Land) Rover Owners Club, www.mroc.co.uk


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Jayk69



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

My understanding of OEM is the part is the same as originally supplied to RR in this case minus the branding. so if Bilstien for example supplied the rear shock it will probably have LR branding on it and come in a LR box. the same shock can be had from Bilstien but just branded by Bilstien not LR.

i cannot comment about if a supplier made one part it can them claim OEM status on other parts. If it does i would expect that part to be engineered to the exact spec of the original part.

you can often see on non OEM components where they have cut the engineering to cut the overall price. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

It's as Pawl says

If you don't buy genuine then you buy OE as the part will be the same as used on the production line. After a specific time producing parts for the line the maker is then licensed by JLR to be able to make the part and sell it under it's own branding...

OEM means the part is made by a company that has made other parts for the production line BUT NOT the part in question... a big difference but a better option than some of the Chinese copies that are everywhere and very cheap...

The problem is knowing if the claims to be OE or OEM are correct, it is impossible to tell in most cases and the amount of total fakes around is growing meaning you pay top dollar and get a cheap fake.... it's big business and is now creeping into aircraft parts.... Shocked Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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Merchy



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Zermatt Silver

I do not always automatically buy LR branded parts. I look at what is available and who the makers are, and their reputation, as well as pricing.
With some parts, it is possible to get equivalent quality parts at cheaper prices. That way you still get peace of mind and reliability. Thumbs Up

Note, My viewpoint is from someone maintaining a 2006 car, if the spares are as good as the originals, I cannot see the point of paying extra money for LR branded parts, especially if there is a considerable difference in prices. ( Obviously I do not have to buy specified parts relative to any vehicle warranty requirements Rolling with laughter )

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