Remember on a 100Kw charger, if you get the power and there isn’t a fault or incompatibility, it will still take 45 minutes from 20%~80%. On 50Kw and below it will be enough time for a full pack of smokes 🤣

Opt for a Tesla model 3 or wait for the Model Y
These are fantastic and the infrastructure in the UK and Europe is growing significantly. As mentioned before it is the only reliable system for now, but other infrastructures are coming up. l=Oo\________/oO=l l:OolΞΞΞΞΞΞΞloO:l

Current
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L SDV8 - 2013 - Indus Silver, on Almond.
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L V8 - 2002 - ex-2003 G4 Challenge Event Vehicle, Stage 3: Australia
RANGE ROVER HSE 4.4L V8 - 2004 - one-of-one Overfinch
RANGE ROVER P38a 4.0L V8 - 1999 - ex-2000 TReK Event Vehicle: South Africa

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Neither of them are as “pretty” though. I know very subjective. And build quality and experience doesn’t come close, as it shouldnt for nearly half the price.

Martin2 wrote:

Doesn’t that map include all the slow chargers and even ones on private drives (if they’ve offered it for use), which are close to useless as anything other than destination chargers?

Yes it did, heres 50Kw and above chargers excluding Tesla......

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Still well covered IMHO, my i3 on a 50 Kw charger can put another 90 miles onto it's range whilst having a coffee. BMW i3 Electric Car
2012 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8 (now gone)
2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6

I’m speaking from real life experience of colleagues who try and use electric cars as their main car and for work. The only one who can do that without immense frustration has a Model 3 Performance.

If you mainly do local or short journeys then electric cars can work, but for me they don’t and they are definitely more expensive than an equivalent combustion engined car. But they do clearly work for some people, which is all good. MY23 Panamera E-Hybrid
MY19 SDV8 Autobiography - Sold

Don’t believe the Tesla hype. Rapid chargers are plentiful, as AJGalaxy2012 demonstrates - Zap map sometimes doesn’t show the chargers until you zoom into an area!! In nearly 2 1/2 years of driving, I’ve only needed to rapid charge about half a dozen times. Most charging is done at home or at your destination.

As for performance, again this is where Tesla hype the headline grabbing 0-60 times. It’s all well and good having a ludicrous mode, which presumably is named because of the ludicrous amounts of faffing about you have to do to get it into that mode, and the ludicrous limitations on its use, because of overheating issues. I think a 4.5s 0-60 is adequate for most users. Plus, the I-Pace can go round corners ...

Then there is the build quality of Tesla’s  Gone D3
Gone FFRR L322
Gone FFRR L405
Now on the JLR electric highway ....

As I said, it depends on how much you use the car. I regularly do 300+ mile trips and I know (for a fact, as I work with people who need to do the same with an electric car) that an iPace / EQC / whatever would drive me mad. If you can manage with home and destination charging most of the time, then it makes much more sense, but there still isn’t an electric car that appeals to me yet range/charging aside.

I’m not a Tesla fan and it’s not Tesla hype, just what I’m told by people I know who run them in comparison with others who run its competition. I completely agree with the points about build quality and looks, but you really can’t deny that the charging infrastructure is much better than anyone else has access to. MY23 Panamera E-Hybrid
MY19 SDV8 Autobiography - Sold

Guys you keep saying they are plentiful but that just isn’t true. You seem to ignore the map that I provided that clearly highlights that 100Kw chargers aren’t plentiful. And even those will still take 45 minutes for an iPace to get from 20 to 80 full.

Showing maps with lower capacity chargers aren’t helpful in that context at all. Sure for most people most journeys are done within the range and back of their home. Nobody has argued against that at all. Nor has anyone but the EV owners brought up range anxiety.

But let’s not be disingenuous and stick to verifiable facts. Yes there are a lot more rapid chargers now than the two there were when I nearly bought one. But as anyone can see they are rather concentrated in one areas of the country. And it will NOT charge whilst having a coffee. That is simply not true.

Martin2 wrote:

If you mainly do local or short journeys then electric cars can work, but for me they don’t and they are definitely more expensive than an equivalent combustion engined car. But they do clearly work for some people, which is all good.

I know you are doing....but you can't compare running costs on a small hatchback like an i3 to a Range Rover.

All that matters is you're really happy with your car  MY23 Panamera E-Hybrid
MY19 SDV8 Autobiography - Sold

I-Pace woes and BEV’s currently being discussed on the sister site:
https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/going-electric-192477.html

For the guys giving a negative feedback of Tesla finish, you must not have seen the incredible progress they's made recently, paint and trim are so much better than 12/18 months ago! l=Oo\________/oO=l l:OolΞΞΞΞΞΞΞloO:l

Current
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L SDV8 - 2013 - Indus Silver, on Almond.
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L V8 - 2002 - ex-2003 G4 Challenge Event Vehicle, Stage 3: Australia
RANGE ROVER HSE 4.4L V8 - 2004 - one-of-one Overfinch
RANGE ROVER P38a 4.0L V8 - 1999 - ex-2000 TReK Event Vehicle: South Africa

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I often wonder if and when a significant number of us change to electric whether it will all be as rosy. The tax take from fuel and VED is significant so I don't expect the zero rates of VED, for example, to continue forever. Lots of people got into rooftop solar panels but the rules changed because the scheme was initially very generous. They change regularly with cars ard will change again. I was involved in the Congestion Charging (green tax) but when it was successful in reducing the number of cars going into Central London - did they celebrate that fact or were they more concerned that a revenue stream was reduced - it was the latter and they put the price up.

Currently we are "greenwashed" into lots of things but rest assured that the driving forces aren't environmental but economic.

As for comparing the running costs of a small car (any small car) with a Range Rover you don't have to be Stephen Hawkins to see what the answer will be. Geoff

Exactly. It won't take long before things change to recoup the loss in tax revenue, isn't fuel tax just over 50% of the cost per litre? That alone is a huge amount of money, so anyone with an electric car should enjoy the savings now as it won't last. MY23 Panamera E-Hybrid
MY19 SDV8 Autobiography - Sold

All very true but what makes you think they wont simply up the fuel tax? One thing for sure, they wont tax it anything like diesel or petrol. I do expect road charging (as in price not battery charging) to come in like the French motorways where you pay a fee to use the road, no vehicle will escape that. Even in electricity was priced equivalent to diesel or petrol, the EV would still win on efficiency and performance. BMW i3 Electric Car
2012 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8 (now gone)
2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6