I’m sure they will do something and I’m sure That will come in the form of where their electricity comes from.

Who can offer fully Zero carbon energy from renewables from their charging stations. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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I think this is one of those debates that’ll never be settled. The people that use the so called premium petrol/diesel products will claim it increases engine longevity and improves performance and economy.

Whilst those that don’t will say they’re saving money by using the standard product.

And there really isn’t anything out there that proves either case conclusively.

Was looking into the 100% renewable energy thing. There are larger companies now on the bandwagon. E.on who I’m with also claim 100% renewable. How they achieve this I don’t know. But it helps settle the conscience for having a fattie. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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I always use premium. Have used BP Ultimate for years but since they stopped doing Nectar points, I have moved to Esso Supreme+ Diesel (B7).

If you are looking for fuel economy then you are driving the wrong motor. The premium fuel helps the engine run cleaner and better. Personally, since I started using Vpower then Ultimate and now Supreme Synergy, my FFRR has never smoked on hard acceleration.

I see other FFRRs driving by leaving a think clock when over taking. Current:
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- Nissan Primera 1.8 SVE
- Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC

northernmonkeyjones wrote:

I’m sure they will do something and I’m sure That will come in the form of where their electricity comes from.

Who can offer fully Zero carbon energy from renewables from their charging stations.

No, I'm sure just like premium fuels BP and Shell will get their boffins to really optimize the electron flow to give you more miles per kilowatt, more performance, longer lasting motor and better for the environment. I cant wait, watching out for the adverts for snakeoil as we speak  BMW i3 Electric Car
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@ajgalaxy are you joking or not? I mean it has to be a joke, but since you link it directly to premium fuels there seems to be a serious point in there that you are trying to make. Come on dude, spell it out and share your wisdom. 👍

Im sure there will be just as many EV drivers suckered into spending extra on fuel as there are petrol / diesel drivers buying premium fuels for little / no gain. Thats my point, me? never use premium fuels and bog standard electricity dispensed from a home designed wallbox \ charger.
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I agree, I am sure Shell, BP and others will sell Premium EV charges with extra cleaning additives and higher grade elect‘RON’ additives to make your electric motors run smoother, cleaner and produce more power and lower emissions... there will be nice glossy videos everywhere as ‘evidence’.

Reminds me of the cigarette manufacturers or gun manufacturers using ‘independent’ scientists ‘proving’ their products are ‘good’ for you 🤦‍♂️

I’m not passing judgement, just sharing the link:

https://www.fleetowner.com/equipment/truck...ium-diesel

Ron Jessen, author of this post, is director of product management and business development for Cenex brand refined fuels. Ron says he is “passionate” about developing products to help fleet owners and farmers succeed.


Hardly an independent viewpoint though

This is one of those subjects where you’ll never change anyone’s mind. It’s amazing how good marketing is these days isn’t it.

As stated in a previous post, I don’t use ‘premium’ diesel. I do wonder how in these litigious times the likes of Shell can make such claims if they are total bs:

https://www.shell.co.uk/motorist/v-power-f...iesel.html