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verydisco



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Damn, I should not have mentioned our neighbours' Rangie! Their 69 plates Velar just broke down on our shared driveway!
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I certainly hope that a new EV will come soon, either as an L460 (would be perfect!) or as a Road Ranger build on the same MLA platform https://www.motor1.com/news/444571/range-r...ed-report/. Even if the Norwegian market is small, a new full EV RR would be a huge success here locally due to the no tax policy for zero combustion vehicles (pure EVs and hydrogen vehicles). I’ve personally already been in contact with the local LR dealer to put me on the “waiting list” if/when a new RR EV get released, either the Road Ranger or - hopefully - as EV version of the new L460.

Globally I think that a ff RR EV would be a great success, since there are no competitors in the luxurious, full-size-SUV EV market currently.

Wrt rage of the EV’s; Rivian’s new R1S will get 400+ miles range next year, like their R1T model with a 180kWh battery pack. BMW’s new iX will get appr 400 miles from 100 kWh battery pack. The new Lucid Air gets 517 miles of range from 110kWh pack. If LR could put enough batteries in their MLA platform, I cannot understand why a ff L460 couldn’t get 400+ miles range as well?

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Philip



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verydisco wrote:

If I had to buy a new vehicle today, it would not be an ICE Range Rover. It would definitely be a Tesla


Which Tesla can drive through a field just as well as down a motorway, or tow a 3.5 tonne trailer all day?

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I don't like the idea of an ICE RR converted to a BEV, the architectures are too different. You won't get the full benefit of the BEV in terms of weight distribution and packaging. I know other manufactures are doing it, but I wouldn't buy one.

I like the idea of a dedicated BEV RR though. I think it would up the luxury considerably and even the off road capabilities.

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verydisco



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Philip wrote:
verydisco wrote:

If I had to buy a new vehicle today, it would not be an ICE Range Rover. It would definitely be a Tesla


Which Tesla can drive through a field just as well as down a motorway, or tow a 3.5-tonne trailer all day?


Since you're asking:
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The Tesla Model X is rated to tow 5,000 pounds (give or take 2250 kg) and even has a Trailer Mode that will automatically level the suspension and turn off rear proximity sensors (mostly) when towing a trailer.

Like a significant amount of L405 owners, I do not tow 3.5 ton. I did take my L405 off road and my L322, but as you will appreciate not that many owners do.

Now the Tesla model X can go through a field, down the motorway and indeed tow. but hopefully, the EV RR will be able to do it even better indeed. Now, when the Cybertruck show up early next year... (towing 14,000 pounds...)

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11224...erchargers

Now here's a Model X towing off-road, Shocked
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KurtVerbose wrote:
I don't like the idea of an ICE RR converted to a BEV, the architectures are too different. You won't get the full benefit of the BEV in terms of weight distribution and packaging. I know other manufactures are doing it, but I wouldn't buy one.

I like the idea of a dedicated BEV RR though. I think it would up the luxury considerably and even the off road capabilities.

Agree - a BEV RR with decent Range (!) would be perfect.

Reg platforms: If I understand correctly, the MLA platform will be able to support both full EVs, MHEV and PHEV, so I hope they have designed it to contain sufficient battery capacity for an BEV, like the new XJ and the RR EV model.

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verydisco wrote:


The Tesla Model X is rated to tow 5,000 pounds (give or take 2250 kg)


EV range plummets when towing, and 2 1/4 tonnes isn't much practical use either. Also very certain a Model X wouldn't get much further than most UK field gates.

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KurtVerbose wrote:
I don't like the idea of an ICE RR converted to a BEV, the architectures are too different. You won't get the full benefit of the BEV in terms of weight distribution and packaging


They've already said that the existing profiles will remain for the EVs - I suspect the looks of the I-Pace (which I like) are a negative in the marketplace (hence the very reactionary e-tron, EQC etc).

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Philip wrote:
verydisco wrote:


The Tesla Model X is rated to tow 5,000 pounds (give or take 2250 kg)


Also very certain a Model X wouldn't get much further than most UK field gates.


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I use my L405 to tow 3500kg (and definitely no more....) very regularly. I also take it off road - nothing to extreme but certainly more than just across a grass verge every now and again. That being said I know I’m probably in the minority. If you have your Range Rover for town / motorway use only then crack on, I can’t fault you one bit, but if it were me I would most definitely have something Tesla’ry. - Corris Grey 2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8
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The latest Plaid Plus model S gets to 60 in less than 2 seconds.

That sounds painful.

+500 miles range 'n all.

I'm not sure if the steering wheel is a good idea or a bad one. I guess it depends on the execution.



Reminds me a bit of the Allegro quartic steering wheel, but maybe that's being a bit unfair.

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Allegro: I had two of them, early 80s. 2nd was beige on beige, with dark-beige quartic wheel. I am in the 0.00001% "love them" camp. It was like captaining a top-heavy motor cruiser on backup outboard in a stiff breeze while reclined in an old-favourite armchair. Vroom for five!

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