scarey wrote:

afaik navcoder only works for the ibus pre 2006 ranges, for the facelift ranges you need something like faultmate...

Tell me more!

http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/products.html

bit expensive mind..  ... - .- -.




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I really don't know why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist over this - yes on other cars you can set this option in the car itself. The RR also can't do 150mph like other cars but that's no reason to moan.

At the end of the day customisation is absolutely free - when you order your car.

To expect a LR dealer to spend time working on your car for nowt is just setting yourself up for a fall. Let's be fair here, we all know RR's are expensive, we all like being raped over the LR Service desk or we wouldn't have bought a RR in the first place.

You can buy a faultmate - but it is locked to your VIN to avoid you charging your mates £50 to change settings on their cars. Now that is truly poor behaviour. 

dan_uk_1984 wrote:

I really don't know why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist over this - yes on other cars you can set this option in the car itself. The RR also can't do 150mph like other cars but that's no reason to moan.

At the end of the day customisation is absolutely free - when you order your car.

To expect a LR dealer to spend time working on your car for nowt is just setting yourself up for a fall. Let's be fair here, we all know RR's are expensive, we all like being raped over the LR Service desk or we wouldn't have bought a RR in the first place.

You can buy a faultmate - but it is locked to your VIN to avoid you charging your mates £50 to change settings on their cars. Now that is truly poor behaviour.

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dan_uk_1984 wrote:

I really don't know why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist over this - yes on other cars you can set this option in the car itself. The RR also can't do 150mph like other cars but that's no reason to moan.

At the end of the day customisation is absolutely free - when you order your car.

To expect a LR dealer to spend time working on your car for nowt is just setting yourself up for a fall. Let's be fair here, we all know RR's are expensive, we all like being raped over the LR Service desk or we wouldn't have bought a RR in the first place.

You can buy a faultmate - but it is locked to your VIN to avoid you charging your mates £50 to change settings on their cars. Now that is truly poor behaviour.

I assume your tongue was firmly lodged in your cheek when you typed your reply!

I never expected this "service" to be free, but knowing the amount of work (or lack thereof) that this task takes, I would have hoped for a more realistic price..............

Maybe I expect too much!

alanm_3 wrote:

I assume your tongue was firmly lodged in your cheek when you typed your reply!

I never expected this "service" to be free, but knowing the amount of work (or lack thereof) that this task takes, I would have hoped for a more realistic price..............

OK, if it takes them 10 minutes to do the change, they've got to cover all the other associated costs, make space in the workshop, get the T4 out, boot it up etc etc etc. So to charge you for 30 mins labour is not a rip off.

You would probably have been able to get them to make 2 or 3 changes to the system for the one price. Did you think of that before you took it in, or ask the service guys advice etc? Or did you ask him to do it and then complain about the price after? 

dan_uk_1984 wrote:

alanm_3 wrote:

I assume your tongue was firmly lodged in your cheek when you typed your reply!

I never expected this "service" to be free, but knowing the amount of work (or lack thereof) that this task takes, I would have hoped for a more realistic price..............

OK, if it takes them 10 minutes to do the change, they've got to cover all the other associated costs, make space in the workshop, get the T4 out, boot it up etc etc etc. So to charge you for 30 mins labour is not a rip off.

You would probably have been able to get them to make 2 or 3 changes to the system for the one price. Did you think of that before you took it in, or ask the service guys advice etc? Or did you ask him to do it and then complain about the price after?

They quoted my for .75 hours of labour, and the service girl did approach the service manager as a gesture of good will as it was my first experience of RR service, but he point blank refused to budge, so I guess he was setting out his stall from the off.
Maybe I'm just used to the "almost" reasonable prices of BMW and Porsche service costs!

@ alanm_3

I moved from BMW to FFRR and am relieved at the reduced servicing costs. Anywhere from £750-£1200 for an Inspection II on the BMW.....

Why not try and find a local independent or as Dan has suggested it may be more cost effective long term to invest in your own device to alter setup and reset codes etc.

I'd probably wait until it's in for some work and ask if 'they could just...' hopefully that way you'll not get hit for the minimum labour charge as it's already in the workshop (I think most of us appreciate that if a trade (be it cars or whatever) does not have a minimum charge they could run around all day on little jobs without actually making a profit as you'd spend half of your time moving between jobs etc).

dan_uk_1984 wrote:

I really don't know why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist over this - yes on other cars you can set this option in the car itself. The RR also can't do 150mph like other cars but that's no reason to moan.

At the end of the day customisation is absolutely free - when you order your car.

To expect a LR dealer to spend time working on your car for nowt is just setting yourself up for a fall. Let's be fair here, we all know RR's are expensive, we all like being raped over the LR Service desk or we wouldn't have bought a RR in the first place.

You can buy a faultmate - but it is locked to your VIN to avoid you charging your mates £50 to change settings on their cars. Now that is truly poor behaviour.

Dan i don't think anyone is getting their knickers in a twist - as you put it

its just that some of use think that these options should be user selectable - if its standard on a 2001 GC then surely its not beyond LR's capability?

and what the 'original' owner selected may not suit the next owner?

so i'm afraid that i cynically suggest that LR see it as a 'nice little earner'!

edit

just spoken to my friend next door and all these options like headlight delay/locking etc are driver selectable options on his Renault Clio!! - as are auto headlights!