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Bl4ckD0g

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What surprised me is that they actually stopped for a single individual. If they are wiling to do that, then they've just highlighted an interesting attack vector to get to the PM. That moment is enough.

18th Jun 2020 9:46am

Dolphinboy

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That is really poor skills and drills. The "principal's" car is completely sandwiched and unable to move - perfect for a second attacker to approach with a suicide bomb or other.

not sure why there is just one bike in front? I would prefer something with a bit more weight to push "stuff" (other vehicles, barriers/people) out of the way for the principal's vehicle to manoeuvre away from the danger zone.

Either way it's a debrief "sans cafe" for someone!

intersting to see what changes they bring in ......

18th Jun 2020 10:22am

stan
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that makes a lot of sense J, abysmal security for the PM... ... - .- -.

Y. O. L. O.
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18th Jun 2020 11:07am

Alistair

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You're right - watching it again - it's the bike that stops as people approach him - that causes the Jag to pull up sharply but the first RR fails to notice.

18th Jun 2020 11:15am

mjdronfield

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Trump wouldn’t have stopped...... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
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1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

18th Jun 2020 11:36am

GGDR

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It's such a shame to see a frankly laughable lapse in security, where the hell is the training?

It's the kind of thing that China or Kim Jong or whoever evils will be pouring over all the camera angles and looking to exploit.

. Cheers, Greg
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18th Jun 2020 11:41am

Dolphinboy

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actually Greg it's far more likely that the greatest threat comes from non-state actors .

18th Jun 2020 12:07pm

Andy S

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Rob99 wrote:
So why doesn't the PM get a Sentinel, like that Khan bloke..........

That XJ is fully armoured. Look how low it sits and look at the window apertures. Mrs May had it from when she was Home Secretary. I once made the mistake of taking a car nerds interest in it when parked outside somewhere she was speaking. A very polite armed copper told me to do one.

18th Jun 2020 4:01pm

Bl4ckD0g

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Can't say I've ever seen an armoured xj in the car park when I was there.

19th Jun 2020 3:46am

Alistair

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I'm not sure how obvious they are, but lots of places seem to say the PM's car is an XJ Sentinel....

19th Jun 2020 6:17am

Bl4ckD0g

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I was referring to it behind TMs car when she was Home Secretary.

19th Jun 2020 6:28am

Alistair

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7 Series as home secretary ?

19th Jun 2020 6:39am

Red Merle

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It’s hard to understand why we waste this level of security on an individual like Boris Johnson

19th Jun 2020 7:01am

Andy S

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It’s the holder of the office that gets the security, no matter the personal character of the incumbent.

19th Jun 2020 7:40am

Andy S

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Alistair wrote:

7 Series as home secretary ?

Shortly after it was launched, TM was photographed next to a new XJ outside Downing Street, with the caption making the point that it was being loaned to the Govt car pool to test suitability.

She did also use a 7 series, as did other ministers, which to a West Midlander like me was annoying...

19th Jun 2020 7:45am

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